Joe De Livera

I am copying a report on potentizing Elephant’s Milk that I was associated with in 2008 which I discovered on the Homeopathy and More Forum of which I was a Founder Member. I am copying it on my own Website for purposes of record.

http://www.homeopathyandmore.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2108&highlight=breast+milk

POTENTIZING ELEPHANT’S MILK (LAC LOXODONTA CEYLANICA)
By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
May 1 2008
I would like to record the process that we used to Triturate Elephant’s Milk (Lac Loxodonta Ceylanica) under the direction of a Homeopath from Switzerland who visited Sri Lanka a few days ago to obtain a sample of this Milk which was drawn from a lactating Elephant.

One drop of the milk is inserted on 3 gm Lactose (about 1 coffee spoonful) which is heaped on a sterilized porcelain mortar about 15 cm diameter. It is then ground into the lactose by the porcelain pestle which is rotated by hand for 6 minutes around the inside of the mortar which is covered evenly by the lactose. The smell of the drop of Elephant’s Milk was very noticeable at this stage and it pervaded the room throughout the trituration process.
The potency of the first trituration is considered as 1C
The lactose is collected into a heap by scraping the sides of the mortar and another 3 gm is added to the heap. The process is repeated for another 6 minutes and the powder collected into a heap.
The potency of the second trituration is considered as 2 C.
Another 3 gm is added and the process repeated for a further 6 minutes.
The potency of the second trituration is considered as 3 C.
The process is repeated for the 4th time and is considered as 4 C
1 gm is taken from the triturated lactose and inserted into 9 gm distilled water in a sterilized glass bottle with glass lid and is succussed by shaking hard in the hand for about 6 minutes. The remedy is considered to be 5 C.
The water is emptied and another 9 gm water inserted into the bottle and the process is continued. The droplets of water that adhere to the inside surface of the bottle is the starter for the higher potency. Each additional succussion is considered as 1 C higher on the potency scale.

When the required potency is reached the distilled water is replaced by 95% Ethanol which is succussed in the same manner and is used to potentize lactose pellets in the usual manner.

The potentized Elephant’s Milk has not been proved up to now but the Swiss expert is of opinion that it can help to pass on to the user the characteristics of the Elephant. Details of provings will be forwarded to me sometime in the future.

This process of Trituration with Lactose and later with Ethanol can be used to potentize any substance including plants when a tiny piece of a leaf or flower is used. It will be observed that this process will widen the catalogue of remedies that are now available in Homeopathy and it will be possible for those interested in the propagation of this science to potentize various remedies from plants that have been used in Ayurveda for centuries whose curative effects are already recorded.

It is my hope that others will continue this process that I have detailed above and will prove the remedies that they potentize and record their observations on a Forums like ours and share this information with the World Body of Homeopaths.

Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka

Re: POTENTIZING ELEPHANT’S MILK (LAC LOXODONTA CEYLANICA)
By: udaya kumar
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May 1 2008
Dear Joe,
Thanks for the information.

One thing I would like to place on record here is what I have heard from my father as a child,around 45 years ago, about the use of elephant in medicines. I was told that my grand uncles were renowned vaidyas and doctors and my father was also good at medicines. I then had overheard what he was mentioning about a medicine. I cannot recollect now distinctly as to whether it was taken from its dung or from its teeth or from its hair on the tail. But, one of the parts of the elephant he mentioned as having extraordinary capacity in growing hair on a bald head.

And then he immediately added that there is one bad effect in it. i.e. the hair may come fast and stay there for some time but when the hair goes off, those places will be effected by Leucoderma, just the same way as the forehead and ears of the elephant are affected by Leucoderma.

That is a preparation in material dose. In the case of homeopathy, the effect should be reverse. And therefore, the effect of homeopathic doses of Lac Loxodonta Indianica should be a cure for Leucoderma! In that case it should be breakthrough as one medicine for all because that is going to be a Sarcode/Nosode.

It is also observed that the prevailence of Leucoderma has been on the rise in the recent years. Arsenic Sulph Flavum being a head reamedy, for Leucoderma (Vitiligo), we can easily conclude that it is a malady of miasmetic origin as both Arsenic and Sulphur together is able to control it. Arsenic and Sulphur BOTH being remedies which work against all the three miasms i.e. anti psoric, anti-syphlitic and anti-sycotic. And their area of function undoubtedly is stomach and skin. The intrinsic relationship in the case of Leucoderma therefore, is between stomach and skin. Also in all cases where I have checked with the person suffering from this malady, the person have been using excessive lemon, lemon water or citric juices and fond of milk and milk products. There is a need to establish these links.

“”””The potentized Elephant’s Milk has not been proved up to now but the Swiss expert is of opinion that it can help to pass on to the user the characteristics of the Elephant. Details of provings will be forwarded to me sometime in the future. ”””

Talking about the characteristics of the elephant, One thing I am sure about elephant is that it does not have any EGO neither about its power, its size or its intelligence. It is very pious animal and devoted to God and therefore in a higher plane of consciousness than human beings. Its milk is certainly required for many many modern men and women.

with regards. udaya

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Re: POTENTIZING ELEPHANT’S MILK (LAC LOXODONTA CEYLANICA)
By: garcot
Bangalore
May 2 2008
Off all the living things in this world,

Elephants retain their memory longest.
because they have the biggest ( size)
brains.

Elephants never sleep ( that is a sad thing, Elephants need only about four hours rest each night and unless the animal is sick, it will not lie down to sleep.)

Elephants can run very long distances non stop

Elephants are very compassionate.

Elephants (some of them) develop leucoderma ( as Udaya said )

Elephants can recognise their enemy even after 12 years!

Elephants are herbivores and will spend up to 20 hours a day eating anywhere from 150 to 300kg of jungle fodder or 6 to 8% of their body weight in food each day. They have a simple digestive system with an unusual cylindrical shaped stomach that stores the food while it waits to be fermented by bacteria in the caecum. The combined length of the small and large intestines is about 100ft. (35m) and it takes about 24 hours to digest a meal. They only derive nutrition from about 45% of what they eat. They prefer feeding on grasses; however they will also eat large amounts of bark, roots and leaves. Understandably, when elephants come across cultivated crops this food becomes addicting and as a result leads to human elephant confrontations. As far as cultivated foods, they seem to prefer rice, bananas and sugar cane. It is like a child being let loose in a candy store.

Elephants have very small eyes compared to the rest of their sense organs.

Elephants normally move only in small groups. BEHAVIOR:

The basic social structure is made up of a family group consisting of 2 to 10 females and their offspring. It has been found that groups of 3 or less adult females with offspring are more stable than larger groups. Young males start to move out of the family group between the ages of 6 and 7 years old. Young males will associate with each other in transitory groups until they reach adulthood. When they become full-grown males they are solitary and only associate with a group when courting a female in estrus.
Elephants live as long as 70 years and above. ( A newborn calf weighs 200 pounds and stands about three feet tall at the shoulder. One of the first things a calf smells is the dung of the mother that is dropped shortly after the calf born; this associates her scent to her baby. The calf can stand two hours after birth and it will begin to suckle. The young are weaned at about 2 years old. Their rate of growth, the age at which they reach puberty, their life span, and their gerontic (last phase of life) progression is similar to that of man).

Elephant’s pass stools in large lumps.

The gestation period is 22 months and one or sometimes two calves are born.
females reach sexual maturity at about the age of 10. If conditions are difficult sexual maturity may be delayed several years.

Elephants have a pulse rate which is half that of humans. ( infact crocodiles have the lowest with 2 to 3 per minute (like in deep meditation) and they live upto 600 years)

Elephants by nature have rough skin and are generally on the darker side. The skin is about 1 inch (2.5cm) thick, however it is paper-thin on the insides of the ears, around the mouth and the anus. The skin contains no sweat glands and is soft to the touch. Skin care is an important part of an elephants lifestyle. Wallowing plays an integral role in elephant society; it also serves as a way to protect the skin from insect bites, sunburn and moisture loss. A bath is important to both captive and wild elephants. It not only cleans them, but is also relaxing to them.

Hearing: All elephants have acute hearing far superior to humans and their large ears act amplifiers. There is a knuckle found at the back of the ear, which is one of the softest parts of their bodies; mahouts, using their feet will steer or give commands to the animal. Elephants communication is rich in infrasound (ranging below what humans can hear) with sound traveling over many kilometers. These long distance infrasonic calls are used in times of stress, excitement, during separation and to relay sexual information. Elephants have have small eyes and poor eyesight so they can only see clearly up to about 30-40 feet (10m). Their sight tends to improve when they are in shaded areas. and have no canine teeth.

Teeth: Elephants do not have canine teeth but they have four high crowned molars with a complex structure for grinding their food. These teeth do not succeed one another vertically in the usual mammalian fashion, but come in successively from behind, one tooth at a time. Think of them like a conveyor belt moving slowly from back to front. When the foremost tooth is so worn down and is of no further use, it is pushed out, mostly in pieces and replaced at the rear by a new one. An elephant grows only six complete sets of these molars during its lifetime; the final set finishes growing in at about the age of 40. This method of replacing teeth prolongs their dentition until that age. Many elephants do reach the age of 60, but few elephants reach the age of 70 because the teeth will be worn down and decayed to the point of them not being able to eat any more resulting in death by slow starvation. A baby elephant will have two or three cheek teeth in each jaw quadrant. As it gets older, new and successively bigger teeth will form in back of these, slowly pushing them forward.

Hope the above facts help us to use the mental and physical patterns where this milk in potentised form may be required.

rgds
Garcot

“wisdom in your body is deeper than your deepest philosophy”(Nietszche)
Re: POTENTIZING ELEPHANT’S MILK (LAC LOXODONTA CEYLANICA)
By: garcot
Bangalore
May 4 2008
Looks like, the potentised milk of an elephant would help in the following:

It would help in the following:

1. High Pulse rate / BP
2. Insomnia
3. Skin problems
4. It would help in Arthritis
5. Oversensitive to sounds
6. longivity
7. Elimination of Longterm Memory for negative impressions. ( depression?)
8. Lack of hunger

Some kind of proving would help us understand the effectiveness of this potentised milk.

Who will bell the cat?

Rgds
Garcot

22 year old girl diagnosed with PCOD and Endometriosis with Chocolate Cysts and heavy bleeding reports 99% relief in just 12 days.

Akanksha says:
April 8, 2017 at 11:19 PM (Edit)
I am a 22 year old girl, I was diagnosed with PCOD in January 2017. I had gained a lot of weight and had acne on the right side of my face, I am also suffering from hairloss. Reports showed size of my ovaries as Right Ovary – 38 x 11 mm, Left Ovary – 22 × 12 mm. I have been bleeding with big large clots for past 20 days but there is no pain, I am taking homeopathic medicines but it hasn’t stopped also I started menstruating just after 20 days of the last menstruation cycle which was for 25 days.

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• Akanksha says:
April 8, 2017 at 11:26 PM (Edit)
Pleade suggest me some medicine to stop the bleeding.

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• Joe says:
April 9, 2017 at 10:41 AM (Edit)
Your bleeding will STOP within a few days after you start on my therapy. I shall expect you to report when it does so.

Akanksha says:
April 11, 2017 at 3:02 PM (Edit)
Sir,

Just wanted to confirm this. I had been taking Arnica 30c as told by my homeopath for the past 10 days, (10 drops, 3 times a day in half tea cup water) to stop the bleeding but it hasn’t been able to do so, it did control it and the bleeding is not heavy but Arnica 30c has not been able to entirely stop the bleeding.

So I just wanted to ask whether I should continue with Arnica 30c as suggested by you.

Thank you.

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• Joe says:
April 11, 2017 at 3:26 PM (Edit)
“I had been taking Arnica 30c as told by my homeopath for the past 10 days, (10 drops, 3 times a day in half tea cup water) to stop the bleeding but it hasn’t been able to do so, ”

The Arnica 30c prescribed by your homeopath is a gross OVERDOSE.
This is the reason why it did not work so far.

Please read my therapy below and you will see that the Arnica prescribed by me is far less concentrated < 100MILLION times less than the same remedy prescribed by your homeopath. You will follow my therapy LITERALLY. Report response in a week as requested by me. Bellis Perennis 30c Apis Mel 6c Arnica M 30c All remedies to be taken in the Wet dose twice daily leaving about half hour between each. Bellis Perennis reduces the Chocolate Cysts (CC) that are usually present with Endometriosis and also prevents the rapid growth of the Endometrial Tissue internally. Apis 6c will help the body to resorb the Chocolate coloured fluid which fills them. A Scan taken 3 months into treatment shows that there is no trace of any colour (anechoic) in the fluid. The CC usually reduces at about 1cm per month. Arnica will reduce the pain and bleeding that many patients suffer from, some on a continuous daily basis. Reply • Akanksha says: April 20, 2017 at 10:02 AM (Edit) Sir I’m very happy to say that after taking the medicines for a week, as prescribed by you my bleeding has almost stopped. I’d say that it has reduced to just 1℅ of what it was. I’m hoping that this will also stop in a day or two and also I am concerned about my weight gain and acne. I weighed 53 kgs earlier and now I weigh 58 kgs( my height is 5.2ft) I know all of it is due to pcos and I’m trying to reduce my weight by having a healthy and low carb diet. But I just wanted to ask if you could suggest any medicine regarding these problems as well. Thankyou so much for your help. It is a report like yours that gives me great joy and keeps me motivated at my advanced age of 87 to continue my mission to help suffering humanity with my therapy aka "Joepathy". You have reported 99% relief from your Bleeding which seemed to be out of control in just 12 days after you started on my therapy. " I have been bleeding with big large clots for past 20 days but there is no pain". I am copying your case on my Website to enable other patients who also suffer from the same symptoms to use my therapy which you and many other patients have used to help with their pain and bleeding during their monthly cycle.

I am copying the conversation with Nancy Peltz a 63 years old patient who was diagnosed with MVP after an accident and ordered surgery just 2 weeks ago.

Nancy Peltz says:
March 6, 2017 at 1:24 AM (Edit)
Dear Sir,
Recently I suffered an impact to my sternum which caused severe pain. I went to the physician assistant and she detected a hear murmur, and referred me for an echocardiogram. I had the echocardiogram 2 days age and was advised to have surgery, as the regurgitated blood flow was heavy, due to the Mitral Valve Prolapse. I have never had any symptoms, until recently, and they were occasional (2x weekly) when speaking I could feel catching my breath. I will be 63 in a few weeks, exercise daily, and am very fit. I wish to avoid surgery, obviously. I am 5ft, 61/2 inches tall and weigh 135 lbs. I eat healthy, although I do drink a cup of coffee in the morning, and have never smoked. I was told that I was born with the Mitral Valve Prolapse. I do not have swollen ankles.
Please advise me, as I appreciate any help.
Sincerely,
NF

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• Joe says:
March 6, 2017 at 5:39 PM (Edit)
” I was told that I was born with the Mitral Valve Prolapse.”
It can therefore be assumed that your accident had nothing to do with your MVP. The surgery recommended can be considered as a last resort and you can use my therapy aka “Joepathy” copied below for 4 months and you will consult the same doctor again and report the diagnosis after another Echo Cardiogram is done.

My therapy for MVP is noted below and comprises using Arnica 30c, Nat Phos 6x and Ferr Phos 6x and Apis 6c. All remedies to be taken in the Wet dose made precisely as indicated.

Arnica, has the incredible ability of filtering the blood and increasing its flow throughout the body. This increased flow seems to help in stimulating the Mitral valve to close but I cannot understand how this phenomenon does occur and can only quote the cases of patients, whose cardiologists discovered that the heart murmur was not audible in a few months on my therapy. A dose is taken twice daily.

Nat Phos 6x will help by accelerating the passage of food down the gut which will help in your cure. It will also reduce your weight 1kg per week. Dose 3 tablets taken thrice daily after meals. Report your weight reduction.

Ferr Phos 6x will increase the oxygenation of the blood and will help in the curative process.
Dose 3 tablets taken before meals thrice daily.

Apis 6c will help to increase Kidney functions to enable the body to leach out the harmful chemicals in the blood.

You will take a Fish Oil capsule and I would recommend PULSE which is a special Fish Oil extracted from fish in the Arctic Circle which have higher levels of Omega 3.

I presume that you are taking various drugs for your MVP and that you feel tired with pain over the heart. I would appreciate if you will keep me posted with any difference in your symptoms, especially the pain you have experienced over your heart which some patients have reported receded in about a week.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done at least 6 times before sipping a capful of the bottle as prescribed.

Please follow the following restrictions which are essential to ensure that the remedy prescribed is not antidoted:

Do not use Coffee, Cola beverages, preserved foods like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter.

You must exercise on a daily basis to ensure that your body is helped by the increased blood flow which will gradually improve the bodily functions by unblocking the micro capillaries which may be blocked.

You will drink over 3 liters water daily to flush out your system.

Report progress weekly.

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• Nancy Peltz says:
March 14, 2017 at 5:58 AM (Edit)
Dear Sir;
Thank you for your quick response. I started the arnica today, and will keep you posted.
Sincerely,
Nancy P

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• Nancy Peltz says:
April 1, 2017 at 11:49 PM (Edit)
Dear Sir,
I am following your protocol for the last 3 weeks. At this time there is no pain in my chest. I did want to clarify that the pain was from the injury. Also, the homeopathic cardiologist I saw said the mummer was a gentle blow and not harsh, an improvement. I will have an echo-cardiogram in 2 weeks to compare with the original echo-cardiogram. I feel great, no shortness of breath, I’m sleeping well, am not fatigue on my job, and I continue to teach yoga in the evenings. I am able to walk very quickly throughout the school hallways, my day job. At night my heat beats very softly.
I will continue to keep you posted,
With gratitude,
Nancy

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• Joe says:
April 2, 2017 at 7:21 AM (Edit)

I am shocked to learn that you were ordered to have Cardiac surgery which your cardiologist would have obviously known would only have aggravated your condition at your advanced age of 63 when your MVP was first detected after you “suffered an impact to my sternum which caused severe pain”.

I hope you thanked God that you located my Website as I do not think that any other Homeopath would have prescribed the only remedy that can resolve your condition which you were born with and which you lived with for 63 long years.

I was very interested to learn that in just over 2 WEEKS your MVP has almost been cured, judging from your report and I shall await the results of your next Echo Cardiogram with interest.

You may not be aware that I am 87 years old and it is a report like yours that motivates me to continue with my therapy which was once derisively labelled “Joepathy” as I do not follow the strict classical rules practiced in Homeopathy.

My Joepathy invariably CURES the patient while their classical homeopathy invariably does not !