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Re: Endometriosis Treatment From Joe De Livera on 2012-05-07
I am copying a post made by Homeoworks on how the author’s wife had successfully used my default therapy for Endometriosis and Chocolate Cysts a few months ago, unknown to me, and which they had jointly read on my website:
www.joedelivera.com.
They were both thrilled to discover that she conceived and bore the baby for 8 weeks during which time they were able to listen to the fetal heartbeat. Unfortunately the baby was lost shortly afterwards and anyone interested in my therapy aka “Joepathy” can read of the joy and the sorrow of this case on the post
which I shall copy in full below:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/336905/
Please help Joe De Livera – Chocolate Cyst and PCOS
From homeo_workson 2012-05-060
Hi Joe,
Greetings!
First of all let me thank you from the bottom of my heart. Your medicine for chocolate cyst worked wonders. Me and my wife had lost all hopes untill we came across your site. Let me give you an insight into our story.
On 25th of October 2010 I took her to a renowned Hospital as she had been diagnosed with Femoral Hernia. During the Ultrasound sonography, the doctor detected a 38mm cyst on the right ovary. No cyst on left ovary.Doctor suggested Lap surgery for femoral hernia & Ovarian Cyst puncturing both to be done together.
She was admitted on 15th November 2010 to Hospital for Laparoscopic Right Femoral hernia repair with Right Ovarian Endometrioma Exicision – Operation to be done on the same day
Post surgery, on 16th November 2010, doctor gave 1st dose of Zoladex injection to stop her monthly periods for some time. Again on 15th December 2010, 2nd dose of Zoladex injection was given. Her periods stopped from December 2010 till February 2011. Periods again started from February 2011.
From the month of February 2011 till March 2011, she started her fertility treatment which included injections to produce good quality egg, injections to rupture eggs, Letroz tablets followed by IUI (Intrauterine Insemination). We didnot get any success and not only was she unable to conceive but also the doctor during Ultrasound Sonography detected two new cyst on left ovary – 1.7cm x 1.5 cm and 1.4 cm x 1.3 cm Please note that this was just after one month after her surgery. Her doctor suggested a 2nd operation to remove the new cyst on the left ovary followed by IVF. My wife was completely uncomfortable to undergo a 2nd operation within a months time. So we decided to stop all fertility treatments and allow nature to take its course. (Please note that this was in the month of March 2011)
Since we were unable to conceive naturally, In the month July we visited a different doctor and a different hospital. This time during the ultrasound sonography doctor detected multiple cysts on both left and right ovary. Post surgery the cysts started spreading across. This doctor too suggested surgery to remove the cysts followed by IVF. We lost all hopes. Though my wife was completely uncomfortable to do a 2nd surgery so soon, however not seeing any other options she made up her mind for the same.
During this time as I was researching on the net, I came across your site and read few of the cases of Chocolate cyst treated by you. To be honest I was not really sure if we should try this option. However we decided that since there was nothing to loose lets us give it a shot. She consumed the two medications suggested by you i.e Bellis P – 30 and Arnica – 30 in wet doses.
She consumed this medicine for five months continuously and in the month of February 2012 she conceived. We were extremely glad. The next few visits to the doctor was very exciting. Tears rolled our eyes as we heard our baby’s first heart beats. It was an out of the world feeling. It was a great feeling and we couldn’t stop thanking you.
However unfortunately this month she miscarried after two months of pregnancy. The doctor said that she also has Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS) and hence she miscarried.
But our hopes are still alive as we know that she can conceive which never happened during the course of allopathic treatment. Thanks to you. May God bless you.
Post miscarriage I am continuing the medicine once again as we decided to give a two months gap before we try again. What do you suggest?
Also request you to help us with some medicine to prevent miscarriage and also treat PCOS.
Looking forward to your valuable advice. Please let me know if you need any additional information.
Many thanks for your wonderful work and may god bless u always for it.
Thanks & Regards
It is my hope that my chief detractor from Brisbane will read this post and hopefully accept that there is indeed ‘method in my madness’ in prescribing the ONE remedy that no other homeopath, classical or otherwise prescribes for Endometriosis and Chocolate Cysts, Bellis Perennis 30c and Arnica 30c both to be taken in the Wet dose twice daily.
I would refer him to his snide comments on this thread to my lack of the qualification in this Science which he states he has and states:
“A first year student can prescribe roughly 50-100 remedies – how many can you use Joe? 5, 10 maybe? Mostly all Arnica/Nat-phos and a few others. And yet you ridicule people with MORE knowledge and skill than you?”
I hope that David will now EAT HIS OWN WORDS and accept that although I may not possess that piece of paper that he purports to possess, I do have the background of over 40 years of involvement in Homeopathy which I have studied from the same textbooks that he has used and 25 years of active hands on experience in helping all who seek my assistance to cure their ailments which I gladly do at my advanced age of 83, free of charge during my spare time.
I do admit that I am not a professional homeopath like David who seems to be more engrossed in displaying his own knowledge in this science which he often considers is his own private domain rather than in actually curing patients. I shall leave it to those who are interested in the CURES that I have carried out with my own brand of Homeoapthy now known as “Joepathy” to read and evaluate the reason why David in common with other classical homeopaths have never used the 2 remedies I have always prescribed as my default remedies for this ailment to help other patients who present Endometriosis and Chocolate Cysts.
I would also like to add that I have not found any reference to Bellis P and Arnica prescribed for the above mentioned ailment in any of the classical textbooks used today and feel that it was just a hunch “Inspiration?” that originally made me to prescribe these remedies to many patients both known and the majority unknown, like Homeoworks whose wife benefitted from it.
I shall now copy and paste the thread on:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/277136/
Re: Endometriosis Treatment From brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-05-24
Somehow I knew that my question would provoke a rant from you.
So the answer is you don’t know what happened to her? Well that is a shame – I hope someone was able to help her in the end.Just seems strange to present this as a successful case – if she lost her baby it is hardly a success. I did not say that you were responsible for her situation.
Yes you love to talk about your thousands of cures. Whenever I or others go searching for them, they are few and far between. Classical homoeopathy is far superior to any therapy that cannot cure the whole patient, cannot cure all their symptoms, as the thousands of homoeopaths have proved over the last 2 centuries. Our literature is full of cures. I see many cases of endometrosis in my clinic, it is actually not too difficult to cure with proper homoeopathy. Full cure, of all symptoms, allowing women to fall pregnant and keep their babies. Remedies given in small doses, chosen on the individual symptoms of the patient, without needing constant dosing for the rest of their lives – as homoeopathy was meant to be used.
A first year student can prescribe roughly 50-100 remedies – how many can you use Joe? 5, 10 maybe? Mostly all Arnica/Nat-phos and a few others. And yet you ridicule people with MORE knowledge and skill than you? People who have dedicated themselves to study, who struggle to comprehend and utilize a very difficult science, devoted to curing patients in the true sense of the word. I know many of these people, have taught some. They deserve respect and applause for what they do, not your misplaced and malicious insults.
Cure in homoeopathy, the cures I get, that other homoeopaths get when prescribing according to our philosophy, is FULL CURE of their symptoms. We do not declare a patient cured who has only had one complaint palliated or suppressed. You rarely cure anyone, although you love to boast and brag about them, using your ‘patients’ as a scoreboard to advance your perceived prowess.
I have seen some people on this forum leap to your defence.People who have not been cured by you, people you have convinced cannot be cured or who have only had one or two complaints resolved and then are told there is no further help for them. This is perplexing to me but says something about your charisma and your abilities at marketing. I have no idea what your background is, but you are certainly talented.
Cure means ALL symptoms cured, not just one. Your claims of cure are flawed, because you define cure in a completely different way to homoeopaths. In an inferior way. How many cases do you have where you cured all the major symptoms of the patients, in all locations? Disease is one entity in the patient, expressing itself in various locations. Homoeopathy cures the disease, which means all the local manifestations of the disease vanish. I can do this, and I do it regularly. My colleagues do it, my teachers do it, my students do it.
Of course if you set the bar so low, how can you not reach it. I personally set my bar alot higher, and the fact that it can be reached by classical homoeopathy is one of the most compelling argument for its use over lesser forms of treatment.
Your voice on this forum is loud, in your criticism of homoeopathy. Do not for a second think that my own voice is not equally as loud in defending it. This is, after all, a site dedicated to homoeopathy, not ‘joepathy’ which is the opposite of homoeopathy in most ways.
So why am I motivated to criticise you? Firstly because you are a vocal opponent of homoeopathy. How can I not rise to that challenge, since I love homoeopathy so much. My entire adult life has revolved around the teachings of Hahnemann, who has never failed to guide me towards helping others. Secondly, because there needs to be one person at least who can remind people of the better way to use our medicines, so that they do not go away from your therapy believing that homoeopathy has failed them.
And again, come the personal attacks. You have no right to comment on my business, my practice, anything in my personal life. It shows the quality of person you are, that you resort to this each time.
And again, you try to convince me that my desire to debate you is actually some kind of illness. Of all your craziness, this is the most disturbing. So you believe those people who disagree with you must all be ill, is that it. Only sick people could possibly oppose you?
If your aim is to ‘vanquish’ me as you believe you have other genuine homoeopaths who have attempted to balance your outlandish views with more reasonable ones….well I believe you will be greatly disappointed.
Homoeopathy has a proven track record, and people come here looking for help based on that record. All your claims are meaningless, chaff in the wind, compared to that powerful legacy. I am proud to be a part of it, proud to speak on behalf of our wonderful medical art. It has survived far greater attempts than yours to destroy it, and it will be here long after you have gone, even after I have gone.
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Any comments David?
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