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To Fitness
I happened to read your statement in your post above:
“A particular person is promoting Nat-Phos as THE remedy for curing GERD by selectively quoting parents benefiting from his Nat-Phos protocol.”
As I am the person to whom you refer, I wish to dispel the doubts that you seek to propagate of my therapy aka “Joepathy” which helps Baby GERD usually in under 6 hours or 2 feeds and CURES it in under 3 days in direct comparison to your classical therapy which can take up to 2 weeks to do so. In the meanwhile the poor suffering baby and the parents continue to spend anxious days and nights wondering when the agony of the reflux of the milk will finally end. In some cases these mothers have consulted me and discovered the miracle of Joepathy which CURES their problem overnight.
I would like to add that I treat all patients free of charge and in Sri Lanka where I live, I also provide the Homeopathic remedy free of charge.
You stated:
“THE NAT-PHOS MISINFORMATION
Homeopathy works on “individualization” i.e. the remedy for GERD which will work on one child may not work on another. There are several remedies for GERD. A particular person is promoting Nat-Phos as THE remedy for curing GERD by selectively quoting parents benefiting from his Nat-Phos protocol. This is not only incorrect but totally against the principles of “individualization” in homeopathy. I am sure desperate parents would do anything to get the cure but blindly going for Nat-Phos is not the route as many have found the hard way. It’s a case of common sense & statistics. If you give Nat-Phos to 100 kids for GERD, some are bound to improve, it doesn’t mean that it’s THE remedy for GERD. Next time someone touts Nat-Phos as the remedy for GERD ask him the statistics first. ”
I do not subscribe to your ‘classical’ theory that a cure of an ailment is only possible by ‘individualization’ in Homeopathy. You may perhaps be aware that I am 85 years of age and am the most senior Homeopath to be actively involved in helping suffering humanity in the whole world. I do so purely for the deep satisfaction I derive in so doing at my advanced age, if only to disprove types like you and a few others who take umbrage at my Joepathy perhaps prompted by jealousy, of the success that attends the CURES of the many ailments and diseases as confirmed by the patients themselves on my website:
www.joedelivera.com
I do not think that you are aware that I am not the only Homeopath to use my “This for That” therapy in treating patients as Dr Prasanta Banerji, a qualified Homeopath who treats over 1500 patients daily free of charge like me, in his own:
PRASANTA BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION
http://www.pbhrfindia.org/
states:
“The Banerji Protocol is a new method of treatment using homeopathic medicines. Specific medicines are prescribed for specific diseases. Diseases are diagnosed using modern/state of the art methods. This is done because modern diagnostic approaches incorporate and help in the selection of medicines so that specific medicines could be easily prescribed for specific diseases. This is not practiced in classical homeopathy.
The concept of specific homeopathic medicine for a disease based on symptoms was first perceived and practiced by Late Dr. Pareshnath Banerji. With the passage of time and the availability of new diagnostic tools like Ultrasonography, MRIs, c-ancer markers and other advanced tests, we were able to further streamline the treatment protocols accurately. The efficiency of this streamlining is reflected by the encouraging results of The Banerji Protocol.
In The Banerji Protocol of treatment, mixtures of remedies or frequent repetitions of the remedies are used when required. This is not practiced in classical homeopathy. The combination of two potentized medicines, we use, are made in a meaningful way based on years of clinical experiments and observations by us. They are mixed for special advantages in treatment, so that the aggravation due to drugs can be checked, side effects of the medicines can be abated, quick and uneventful recovery can be ensured in a much shorter time.
Specific homeopathic medicines are also used for supportive care. Homeopathic medicines prescribed on constitutional grounds may play a useful role in supportive and palliative for patients with malignant disease.”
You have also stated:
” Next time someone touts Nat-Phos as the remedy for GERD ask him the statistics first. ”
You are invited to visit my website to read the statistics of grateful mothers on:
and
You may like to know that I have weathered many years of criticism on the ABC and 3 other Homeopathic Forums successfully and
emerged with flying colours purely on the basis of the same statistics that you demanded which are all available for you to study and hopefully accept on the basis of the patients own confirmation of their cures which some considered as “Miraculous”.
For the record I shall copy my default therapy for Baby GERD which I have prescribed for hundreds of babies below. I am proud to state that the rate of success of using my Joepathy is over 95% as can be proved by an analysis of the statements by parents on my website all of which are not included in the 2 links above.
The remedy that has proved to be very effective for Baby GERD is:
Nat Phos 6x tablet dissolved in milk given immediately after a feed. Start with half tablet but if the response is not as expected, you may increase to a full tablet but you will not exceed 6 tablets in 24 hours.
You may like to try to reduce the quantity of milk you give for each feed to enable baby’s digestion to stabilize. You will however feed more often. It is essential that you burp baby immediately after each feed.
You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.
It is best not to vaccinate Baby till s/he is over a year old as the after effects in some cases can add to the problems with GERD.
Do not give Baby any solid food till s/he is over 8 months of age.
You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that Nat Phos 6x will help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.
Report progress in 24 hours and as often as you wish on this thread.
If you discover that baby does not respond to the Nat Phos 6x alone and this has occurred in a few cases, you will contact me again and I shall then prescribe another remedy to reinforce the action of Nat Phos 6x.
I would like to add in conclusion that it is rarely that I have to waste my time in defending my Joepathy but I felt that I should do so here on this thread to dispel the misinformation that you seek to spread of
my Joepathy which CURES the ailments of suffering humanity free of charge.
Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From miriams on 2014-07-20
Hi Fitness
Thank you for the reply. I will certainly try this remedy. I need to order it I should be able to start it on Tues.
Can I ask you: –
1) Is the remedy you suggested a different one from the tissue salt calc phos ( I think the full name is calcium phosphate)
2) do I stop giving Zantac while I try this remedy. I have stopped Zantac before while trying remedies and it was always stressful, as Zantac does give some relief to my daughter. If you say to stop then I will follow your lead.
Thanks again
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From miriams on 2014-07-20
To Joe,
I have tried your protocol, i.e. nat phos for my daughter ( hylands brand) and nat phos for me and I was taking arnica twice daily but it did not resolve my daughter’s condition. I did this for about 5 days. I stopped as it was not working and started by daughter on zantac, which I hate but I have 3 other small children to consider.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Miriams,
Its the potentized form, not the tissue salt. These work totally differently.
You have to stop Zantac while using the remedy or you will never know what is working.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Joe,
I don’t doubt your sincerity, its your competence that I am questioning.
You can use remedies any way you like, please don’t call it homeopathy as I am sure you know how homeopathy works only on three basic principles.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-21
To Fitness
I can see that you have not read and UNDERSTOOD the impact of my last post addressed to you as you would not otherwise have questioned my ‘competence’ to help patients who consult me, both here on the ABC and on my Website.
I have already stated in my last post that I did originally use the same methodology that you and other classical homeopaths use to elicit the symptoms and treat them with that elusive single remedy in accordance with your studies in college. I realized that this resulted in a waste of time which left the patient suffering from his/her ailment while I (or you) followed the protocol dictated by the tenets of classical homeopathy which I rejected, in common with Dr P Banerji many years ago, as the therapy I prescribed just did NOT work.
You must accept in principle that a patient consults a physician to treat the ailment presented and is not interested in the methodology used to do so by the doctor. The patient expects to be CURED asap and this is very relevant from the standpoint of anxious mothers who present their babies with GERD and expect to have them cured ASAP which unfortunately does not occur in your case in common with many other classical homeopaths who are consulted on the ABC and other Homeopathic Forums.
I did not attend any Homeopathic College as Homeopathy is only a Hobby to me to which I am dedicated. I do treat a few selected patients by appointment and you will perhaps understand the reason why I choose to do so, as I prefer to treat difficult cases like Robert Ray whom I CURED of the after effect of 3 strokes he had suffered in 2002 shortly after he consulted me on the ABC in 2002.
Robert Ray was CURED from the after effects of 3 Strokes he suffered from 2002 to 2010
This is another reason for my establishing my own Website to enable anyone in distress, anywhere in the world to consult me and you can read the many accounts of CURES, I have achieved as confirmed by the patients themselves. I repeat again that I do so free of charge unlike you and others who do charge for advice on your own websites.
You stated:
“You can use remedies any way you like, please don’t call it homeopathy as I am sure you know how homeopathy works only on three basic principles.”
I repeat again that I do not prescribe on the basis of classical homeopathy as my therapy has been dubbed “JOEPATHY” by a coterie of classical homeopaths who were in the
habit of challenging every post I made over 5 years ago on 3 Homeopathic Forums which made me establish my own Website which I presume you have visited as requested by me. I am proud to state that I practice “JOEPATHY” and am surprised that this term attracts over 2000 hits on Google.
I would like to copy a page listed on Google from the Homeopathy and More website I founded in 2006 with a friend Praveen Wadhwa who is a Computer Engineer by profession and like me was not qualified in Homeopathy but was dedicated to this Science. He wrote the software for this Website but has sadly not been active on it for the last 4 years.
Joepathy – My Reaction
By: msrao
October 29 2008
Dear Sir,
This is the first time I am coming across the term ‘Joepathy’.Perhaps this is due to my inadequate exposure to the outside world or may be indifference.In fact as soon as I came to know the existence of such a web (through you) I logged into it with some excitement. While doing so I trespassed in to neighboring websites as well!To say the least I was shocked to see the vituperative language used by your detractors. While I am not competent to go into the merits of the dispute I cannot help myself from expressing my opinion on this vexed issue. My knowledge of homeopathy is rudimentary which I picked up from my frequent visits to homeopathic stores and desultory reading of some elementary books on the subject. But as a layman I think I am entitled to express my views on the subject.
As I understand the whole problem revolves around specific medicine for a particular ailment as against the totality of symptoms advocated by the classical homeopaths. When I visit any homeopathic stores, I find that some of the internationally renowned firms dishing out medicines for specific ailments containing combination of a number of homeopathic medicines, whereas the method followed by you , is at least, a single remedy at a time (as I understand). Is it not more ‘criminal’ than the method followed by you?
Your plea is that you have found a particular medicine(drug)cures more diseases than mentioned in the conventional materia medica (by dint of your experience)and as such to be included in the materia medica, of course after proper investigation.
If a drug or medicine happens to be panacea for a host of ailments, then, what is wrong in prescribing that medicine and sharing the knowledge with others?
I have seen a number of homeopaths (classical or otherwise) prescribing one medicine for the morning and another for evening. Does it not go against the grain of pure homeopathic principles? Slowly and irrevocably we are slipping into combination theory, in a novel way, whether we admit it or not.
Your suggestion that the provings should be carried forward and not content ourselves with already known is noteworthy. This calls for an open mind on the part of medical fraternity.
I would request you to ignore the diatribe and continue to serve the humanity. At one stage you expressed your anguish that you were spending more time in defending yourself than attending to the needs of patients. It is a pity!
I think I have understood the case and my remarks make sense.
Long live Joe the maverick!
With regards,
M.S.Rao
Re: Joepathy – My Reaction
By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
October 29 2008
I was delighted to read your post which made me realize that many people who have read my posts on the Homeopathic Forums I used to visit daily in the past, have finally realized that the therapy I have tried to promote for the last 5 years on various Homeopathic forums is based on the “this for that” therapy aka “Joepathy”. I did so as I discovered that it was far more effective than the stereotype classical method that some classically trained homeopaths use. Please note that this term Joepathy owes its origin to the same classical homeopathic fraternity and I often feel that in coining this term which they originally used in a derisive sense, they unwittingly honoured me as this term Jeopathy is now internationally accepted to describe the direct allopathic form of therapy that I use. Google picked it up some time ago and lists some of my more interesting cases numbering over 120.
I have persisted in using Joepathy to help my patients as I have invariably found that the elusive single remedy that the learned classical homeopath finally prescribes, according to the rules, for the totality of the symptoms that a patient presents from the top of his head does not usually work. As a result the patient is sent home in greater distress than when he consulted the homeopath who charges a handsome fee for each consultation. In my case as I presume that you are aware, I do not levy any charge for my services as I am not a professional qualified homeopath. To me Homeopathy is only a hobby which I practice in my free time as it gives me a deep sense of satisfaction to heal anyone who consults me which many do after they have visited doctors, ayurvedic physicians and classical homeopaths. They consult me as a last resort and are agreeably surprised to discover that their ailment from which they had suffered sometimes for years is history, often overnight.
It is the criticism of my therapy that irked me resulting in my spending more time in defending Joepathy. I have always maintained that it is the patient who comes first and not the method used, classical or Joepathy that matters. I cannot understand the reason why I have been subjected to this constant criticism as the proof of the pudding is there in all the forums for anyone to read and the number of grateful patients who have testified to have been cured is too numerous to be counted.
I would like you to please visit the link below and read the discussion that ensued some years ago on another forum where I have spelt out in detail the reason for my preferring my own Joepathy over the classical method and I shall be interested to have your response to this post. I believe that comments from those who are interested in using the Joepathy form of therapy can help to advance the progress of Homeopathy.
http://www.otherhealth.com/homeopathy-discussion/6576-all-ho…
Re:Joepathy – My Reaction
By: msrao
October 31 2008
Dear Sir,
I have gone through the website suggested by you and other related websites.What I gather is ….the members have taken umbrage at your using the forum for propagating your brand of “pathy”.It is understandable.But it is sad to see that the discussion has degenerated into downright abuse.
The learned members are of the view that it is unethical and sometimes dangerous to prescribe medicines solely on the basis of a few physical symptoms without taking into account the totality of symptoms.This is perfectly in line with the basic principles of homeopathy.But this is an ideal situation.However the present day life demands a little flexibility.
What baffles me is that even veterans like Nash say that a peculiar physical symptom clinches the selection of the remedy irrespective of the nature of the disease.I am also of the opinion that taking the case in an elaborate manner is a luxury which we can ill afford,when a simpler but effective method can be adopted.That is what exactly Mr.Joe is trying to do.I am not suggesting that homeopathic principles as propounded by the founder should be thrown to winds.We should strive to follow it where ever possible ,but mulishly adhering to it in the face of fast changing lifestyle is not going to advance the cause of homeopathy nor will help the public.The array of homeopathic medicines and the radical literature available in the market is a witness to the silent revolution that is taking place.I have seen many a successful practitioners adopting a slightly different approach.Painting Mr.Joe as some one with sinister motives is most uncalled for.
Let me recant my recent experience.Two months ago I traveled from Detroit to LasVegas (4hrsflight).A few hours after landing I got excruciating pain in the lower legs.I attributed it to arthritis the most common ailment of advancing years .As I was almost “crippled”I took a pain killer to tide over the crisis.But I felt that the root cause lay elsewhere.I felt that this was something to do with poor circulation of blood in the lower legs.(as I had read and seen on TV).I had also read that Ferrum Phos and Arnica would be useful in such cases.I took these and in a few days I was relieved of the pain and it has not returned since.I did not take any mental symptoms in to account.Q uackery at its best!I crave the indulgence of the members.I do not pretend to educate the members nor is my intention that others should follow suit.I understand that this occurs when the heart becomes “inefficient”and these medicines tone up the muscles.
The ultimate aim of any system is to give relief if not complete cure.If any medicine is helpful in this pursuit it is most welcome,call it by any name.
I abhor to call ‘joepathy’ as a separate system.The same homeopathic medicines are used except that emphasis is on physical symptoms.What about tissue salts …..the whole philosophy being that deficiency of any one of the twelve salts identified by the founder causes disease,without undue emphasis on mental symptoms.The homeopaths have taken this system under their umbrella!
Let not ‘Joe’ issue be blown out of proportion and my humble request is that his experience should be utilised for the benefit of mankind.
I stand corrected,if I am wrong.
With regards,
MS.Rao.
We Love Mr.Joe in this forum and we have great respect for his contributions to humanity. And in this forum, we go much beyond just “homeopathy”. The term homeopathy might have emerged 200 years ago, but the principle ” Like cures like ” is very very ancient. Infact, many vedic literatures talk in detail about the efficacy of this principle.
We make our own remedies ( from allopathic drugs, ayurvedic, edible nuts, siddha medicines etc) which follow this principle, but the method of preparation, may not follow what is told in Organon 5 , 6 or earlier. But all these self made remedies have worked wonders on many, because there is no violation of the basic principle what nature has laid down for the benefits of humanity. Infact, Arnica for example, has about 4000 listed symptoms in materia medica. And there are another 1000 symptoms that we can add. And this is precisely what Mr.Joe has proved.
Niether the provers are gods, nor the people who recorded the provings are!
Let us accept our knowledge is self-limiting….
Best
Garcot
I am copying a post from my own Website from Jani which arrived yesterday which gives you an insight into the patients response to the standard case taking protocol which left this patient annoyed and wondering what classical homeopathy was all about and whether it is designed to heal or to keep the patient in a state of suspended animation with orders to report progress weekly at the cost of another fee charged by the classical homeopath.
Jani
Submitted on 2014/07/20 at 11:44 AM
I have no doubt they will be convinced sir. (she refers to her 2 daughters)
It is not that they do not trust Joepathy—on the contrary, they are scared of the time (and perhaps the information dug up) by case taking in homeopathy.
One good example : A homeopath diagnosed me as a Platina personality. Personally, I have no issues with any classification but if you read Boerricke you know how terrorizing it can be.
One personality trait for Platina—nymphomania.
I can assure you that as a Hashimoto patient for over 25 years, any interest in that area is anathema for me. people lie about what they feel—-which is why I am citing a medical conditions!
But when you read Boericke, which is easily available online, it can be scary. My homeopath (actually my old one, currently I am under no treatment except Joepathy for eczema) takes the view that a Platina personality means a person able to attract people from the opposite sexes without even making an effort—–but you know it can be scary, if not offensive, if someone were to classify you with nyphomaniacs or call you suicidal when you are not, or at least feel you are not!
Anyway, case taking can also be very time consuming—my daughters hesitate to take that much time out, when they feel their “illnesses” are not that serious.
I wanted them to try, because like you, I am fascinated by what arnica can do—and the wonder why other practitioners are not looking at it more closely. I am your fan, sir, for just that reason.
If, as I hope you have read my post, you may now understand the reason why I persist in using my own therapy, JOEPATHY as I have ample proof that it CURES unlike the Classical Homeopathy that you prescribe, which invariably does not.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Miriams, please continue posting your case updates here. I won’t spoil this post arguing with Joe. I have stated facts, he can continue believing what he does.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Evocationer on 2014-07-21
Fitness there is no point arguing. This same argument has been going on for years, it never changes and Mr De Livra never alters the direction or nature of his argument.
Homoeopathy has enemies of all sorts, and the only way we can genuinely oppose them is to continue and do the good work we do. Actions speak far louder than words.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-22
Fitness
Please note that I did not start any argument on this thread with you as it was you that dared to question the efficacy of my therapy.
I have given you concrete evidence of the efficacy of my therapy which is not based on the 2 hour long case taking procedure which a patient commented on only yesterday, which I copied in my last post.
I presume that you are too full of your own ‘classical’ therapy to accept that there are other more effective ways of curing an ailment even after you have concrete evidence that my “Joepathy” works in some wondrous manner. I consider that I am fortunate that I did not qualify in a Homeopathic college only to get brainwashed into believing like you, that a cure is only possible with classical homeopathy, when the facts are otherwise.
There is no question of “belief” in accepting cold hard facts as confirmed by the patients themselves of having being CURED by my Joepathy.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-22
Evocationer
I have just noticed that you too have joined forces with Fitness in insisting that the ailment a patient presents can only be cured with the same ‘classical’ Homeopathy that you both have studied, as I too did about 40 years ago, perhaps before you were born.
I have in previous debates with you given you comprehensive chapter and verse, quoting from the statements of the patients themselves that it is not only through the use of classical homeopathy, complete with the 2 hour long questionnaire that the elusive ‘Single Remedy’ to treat the totality of the symptoms presented by the patient can be prescribed.
I have already informed you that I too did use this same protocol 40 years ago when I was first fascinated by Homeopathy and studied it in my free time as I was and am involved in another profession but decided to investigate this Science after having been cured of my weekly colds.
After the Tsunami hit Sri Lanka in 2004 I was more involved in Homeopathy as I was approached by Homeopaths Without Borders to pave the way to establish facilities in the areas which were affected and it was then that I met Luc who was instrumental in changing my use of dry pellets into using the Wet dose which term I authored with his assent. We did have many interesting arguments with each other as I had at that time discovered the incredible benefits of Arnica as a general tonic but he refused to be swayed by my discovery and like so many classical homeopaths warned me of the danger of using any remedy on a daily basis.
You may like to read his own account on his experience in Sri Lanka on:
http://www.drluc.com/homepath-srilanka.htm
I am now 85 years of age and I am proud to state that I have disproved the classical concept that predicts the danger of taking Arnica 30c daily and have many followers throughout the world who have followed my example.
Here in Sri Lanka I have about 15 friends who at various times in the past have followed my example and are taking Arnica 30 in the Wet dose nightly. It is remarkable how when we meet, we notice that we all seem to have been excused the ravages of time and the normal signs of the advancing years as at 85 (I will be 86 next October), I have often been mistaken for one 20 years younger as I do not have any wrinkles on my skin although my hair is completely grey. My mind is clear and I do still drive to work daily although I leave office around 3.30 to avoid the heavy traffic in Colombo.
I do not take any allopathic drugs whatever and I believe that this is one reason why I do not present any medical problems today. You may like to visit:
The Pill Popping Culture
and read my thoughts on how drugs can ruin the health of an otherwise healthy person. I must add that I spend an hour almost daily on exercise which I do on my True Prone Exercise Cycle listening to music on my iPad Air.
I do not have any aches or pains in my body whatever and annual blood tests prove that I do not have Diabetes and my Cholesterol and Triglyceride levels are the envy of people who are half my age. This is the report I get from my friends who meet me regularly to have their bottles of water they usually bring with them, to be activated with Arnica 30.
This is no idle report made with the intention of converting you or Fitness about the efficacy of my Joepathy but I am doing so in the hope that both of you, who profess to be classical homeopaths, do desist in criticizing me and my Joepathy in future as I have proved beyond doubt that my therapy works.
I do not criticize your pitiful efforts to prescribe your classically generated therapy to unsuspecting patients whom you treat sometimes for weeks on end prescribing one remedy to be followed by another, with no cure. Some of your patients have presented their cases to me on my website and you can verify for yourself how many have been CURED.
The least that I can expect is that you reciprocate my attitude, to NOT criticize me in your daily visits to this ABC. Many others have done so in the past 12 years on this and other Homeopathic Forums and have either faded away but Gavini Murthy who was one of my most belligerent critics finally stated:
“You must have observed that I am not the die hard classical homeopath any more. I now appreciate that homeopathic medicines are capable of curing even when used in the non classical way. ”
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/231958/
As I have stated in another post to you, Dr Prasanta Banerji has also discovered independent of me, that the same “This for That” therapy I use and prescribe is more effective in comparison to the classical homeopathy he used in the past.
I remember reading your statement that his rate of cure was below 20% and I would like to categorically state that your statement is not true as you can verify for yourself. I consider it unfair on your part to distort facts merely to delude visitors to this ABC who may not be able to verify the veracity of your statement.
I cannot resist an afterthought………….
I feel that the Death of Homeopathy which is currently being promoted in the UK and the US and perhaps in Australia by Big Pharma, is largely due to the attitude that you classical homeopaths promote as your therapy does not result in the same rate of cures that the therapy prescribed by Dr Banerji and me, do. The patient is not interested in the methodology used to generate the remedy as any patient wishes to be CURED ASAP.
The hocus-pocus that you classical homeopaths display in treating a patient, starting with the 2 hour long case taking process to elicit that elusive “Single remedy to treat the totality of the Symptoms presented by the patient”, is in my considered opinion the root cause of this “Death of Homeopathy” Syndrome. I believe that it is in your hands to change this attitude and the sooner that you and other classical homeopaths accept this simple fact and take action to do so, the better it will be to allay the general attitude to avoid Homeopathy, as the patient needs to be cured and it is your duty to use whatever means is at your disposal, to do so.
I shall not be surprised if you attack me again as you have done in the past on the basis that my statements are the rantings of an old man who needs to be converted to your own classical homeopathy. I would like to reassure you that they are based on my observations over almost half a Century during which I have witnessed this Death of Homeopathy which has been woven into a mysterious web of intrigue, woven by classical homeopaths on the basis of their studies in colleges, where they are brainwashed into believing that a CURE of an ailment can only occur within the strict classical protocol.
I have proved otherwise in common with Dr Prasanta Banerji who is a qualified Homeopath unlike me, and has shown the guts to defy the tenets of classical homeopathy and use my “This for That” approach to Homeopathic Healing.
It is a matter of interest that Dr Banerji who is reputed to treat 1500 patient on a daily basis in his Homeopathic Hospital and I do not charge any fees to treat patients. I do so purely for the deep satisfaction I derive from healing suffering humanity and especially babies whose mothers occupy my time and attention right now to help them to overcome Baby GERD.
I do wonder if this common bond or attitude has anything to commend it.
I have some digestive issues and want to ask Joe some questions. Is this where I type my questions?
You may cosult me here.
Please note however that I do not accept being addressed by my first name Joe, as here in Sri Lanka where I live we have a modicum of respect for age, and I am 85.
I note that your husband is already using my Joepathy for his ‘high’ LDL and he is advised to continue to do so for some time into the future as it does not pose any risk.
My apologies on calling you by your first name and I do have respect for my elders. Is Mr. De Lavera OK?
My problem: 4 years ago I ate a yogurt and after that it felt like knives were cutting into my gut and the pain was so intense that I broke out in a sweat (last for about 30 seconds) but felt longer. It passed and I felt fine afterwards. My husband had eaten a portion of the same thing and he had no reaction.
Later, after I ate lunch, I experienced a less intense pain but got extremely gassy and that started more severe digestive issues which continued. I thought I was allergic to dairy and wheat so stopped using both and I started to lose weight but the gassiness and bloating continued with pain in the lower left side of abdomen. I also stopped using sugars because I thought I had candida. I was better but I started to develop allergies which changed from day to day as to what I could eat. At one point, I could only Zucchini, rice, chicken broth, avocado and I can’t remember the other food.
I need to lose about 30 pounds but after that I started to lose weight rapidly and saw many physicians for almost 1.5 years. My lowest weight was 85 pounds (was originally 162). After a bout of not being able to keep water in with severe diarrhea, I had colonoscopy and upper endoscopy and a battery of other tests. The diagnosis was I had a mild case of ulcerated colitis and would need to take 2400 mg of medicine (asacol) for the rest of my life. I took it for several months and it helped a little but I had a lot of side effects and stopped taking it.
I decided to use homeopathy (saw a few classically trained ones) but 1 wasn’t very good and the other was OK but it only worked to a degree but I didn’t like her methods. I also used acupuncture and ayurvedic treatments (I still use ayurvedic treatments and this was most successful because I was able to gain a little weight – now 96 pounds, but it is a slow process).
I have tried to educate myself on homeopathy and recently stumbled on your cite and I have some of the same thoughts on much of what you have written on views of the methods used by classically trained homeopaths.
I also saw an endocrinologist and lab work was done. It showed that the bad bacteria in my stomach were 6 to 1 to the good ones.
I think I’ve always had a problem with digestion and this was going on all my life because I was always gassy and constipated (also had bouts of eczema, ringworm, etc as a child and also many infections which were treated with antiobiotics). As I got older, I started to have bouts of acid reflux which were thought to be heart attack and was treated with Prilosec.
My current symptoms are: I don’t digest what I eat properly so the food ferments and causes the acid reflux problems which varies from meal to meal and day to day. It gets bad sometimes and pushes into the throat and burns in the sternum and throat areas as well as different parts of my body. Sometimes, my throat gets very sore, sometimes first thing in the morning and sometimes a few hours after I eat. Some days, I don’t have a problem.
I also have bouts of constipation which alternate with looser bowels. Sometimes, my stomach is distended, but mostly very, very gassy with a lot of belching.
TREATMENT CURRENTLY BEING USED: I just saw a new ayurvedic doctor and completed a 14 days diet of using only goat’s milk and some rice along with some herbs. I had to send updates everyday on my weight and how I felt. I have to return to discuss results and treatment plan.
I also use wet dose of arnica, 30 c, 3x/day (when I get up, 1 hour before lunch and at bedtime). I also use 2 nat phos, 6x after I drink milk and 3-4 after I eat a larger meal along with 2 mag phos. I also use 3 cal fluor/day and kali phos the same way.
TODAY: I had the arnica close to 5 am. I drank some warm milk around 6:15 and a little rice cooked in milk with some cardamom and saffron at 8:40. I took 2 nat phos and mag phos about 15 minutes after I had eaten. The burning sensation in sternum area and burning in forearms, elbows, bottom of feet and calves manifested around shortly after I had eaten and has continued. It is now worse (11:50 am) in the sternum area and slight in throat area.
What do I need to change to make this more effective? Thank you so much for the gift of your time to help me. With much gratitude.
P.S. I have used the wet dose arnica and nat phos for my brother who is a type 1 diabetic. He was very ill and his blood sugar was a mess and he looked like an old man. After 1 week of using this treatment, he had reduced his insulin from 30cc to 15 and then 10cc/day. He was not able to walk much for several years and said his legs felt young and was able to go for a long walk a week later.
I used nux vomica, 6x, 3x/day (for constipation) several months ago and stopped after things had stabilized a bit. I just started with 1 dose at night 2 days ago. Don’t know if this is a good fit and if it is, unsure of the dose I am taking.
I had forgotten to say thank you for the information about my husband. Will continue with arnica wet dose.
ADDENDUM TO ORIGINAL POST FROM CAIRO: I was having some computer problems and in the rush, I missed some information.
There were other doctors between who had some ludicrous ideas like I needed gallbladder surgery for the pain on the left side of my stomach. I did see another specialist after the colitis diagnosis and he was the head of medicine at that facility. He said it was an incorrect diagnosis and ran several other tests including blood work that said I was in good health except I was losing weight.
I have had an appetite whenever I eat and have enjoyed whatever little I’ve been able to eat. Overall, I don’t think I eat too much but aren’t sure; I hadn’t eaten meat in a very long time because it was hard to digest so when I was able to eat it again, I indulged a little more than I should occasionally. I don’t use sodas, coffee, black tea or alcohol.
I had never been a good sleeper (since age 13) had insomnia, but after homeopathy and Ayurveda, the insomnia problems went away. I still don’t sleep soundly and don’t get enough REM so I don’t always wake up refreshed, but I think that is the result of the digestive issues.
Through all of this, my energy has always been good. Actually I feel much healthier as a thinner person than a heavier one but my body has cannibalized the muscles in search of nutrients it wasn’t getting from the food I ate.
I also have used cell salt nat mur for the water issues, but think I am not using enough. I would like your thoughts.
I used to get many sinus infections all the time and every winter I would get the flu. Thank God, it has been 2 winters that I’ve not had the flu and no sinus infections for 4 years. Overall, my immune and nervous system is much stronger.
Please check the name of my website which does not coincide with:
“Is Mr. De Lavera OK?”. My name is Joe De Livera.
Where do you live and what is your AGE and the age of your husband?
It takes me too much time to wade through ALL your posts detailing your ailments.
Please be brief and indicate your problems in a few lines.
Where do you live?
I live in USA.
Age: 55
Husband: 62
Unable to fully digest what I eat and not getting enough nutrients.
I get very gassy after I eat. Underweight, 95 pounds.
Get bouts of acid reflux in sternum and throat areas.
Taking wet dose arnica, 30c – am, midday and bed time and 4 nat phos after meals.
It is very likely that you suffer from Hyperacidity or Gastritis, aka GERD (Gastro Esophagal Reflux Disease) and I shall copy my default therapy that has helped hundreds of patients to overcome this disease for which doctors usually prescribe PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) drugs which are dangerous and can cause many other more serious problem when used in the long term.
You will hopefully discover that my therapy aka “Joepathy” will help you within 24 hours after you have taken your first dose after a meal.
The remedies you will order are as follows:
Nat Phos 6x dose 2-3 tablets taken immediately after each of 3 meals.
This remedy accelerates the passage of food down the gut and prevents the formation of acid which would otherwise reflux causing GERD.
Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.
This remedy works to repair the damaged Esophagus which has metastasised to resemble the gut to deal with the Hcl refluxed into it causing severe distress. Arnica works with the Nat Phos to speedily cure the problem.
You can also take a PROBIOTIC like Bifilac daily. A Probiotic will help by changing the balance of the Bacteria in the gut and will contribute to your cure and help to ensure that your problem does not recur. After your problem with GERD is stabilised you can take the Arnica in the Wet dose nightly before bed and the Probiotic daily for life. You do not need to take Nat Phos daily but you will keep a stock to be used whenever you feel uncomfortable after a meal when you will take 2-3 tablets as necessary.
Please observe the following simple rules:
Do not eat large meals. Eat small meals but more often if you feel hungry. Do not drink more that a few sips of water after your meals. This is to prevent the further dilution of your gastric juice which can then reflux into your Esophagus which results in GERD.
It is important that you do not go to bed for at least 2 hours after dinner as food will take about this time to digest and it is best to stay awake and upright to enable your food to digest before going to bed.
No fatty food, alcohol, coffee, preserved meats like sausages, ham, bacon as they contain Saltpeter which will antidote the remedies listed immediately.
If you suffer from a stomach ache or you feel your stomach puffing up before a meal during the day between meals, this is usually due to hunger pains, caused by your gastric juices attacking the inner lining and the wall of your stomach. The simple remedy is to eat some food like a biscuit or a banana between meals to keep the gastric juice away from digesting the stomach wall which results in a stomach ache which in some cases can be acute.
You must drink at least 3 liters of liquids, preferably water daily and you must also exercise for at least half hour daily. It is important to sweat it out as this is all part of my therapy to overcome GERD.
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in a 5ml Liquid Alcohol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before sipping a capful of the bottle twice daily.
It is understood that the patient will stop all other drugs which s/he may be taking for this ailment.
Do not use Coffee, Cola beverages, preserved foods like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter.
You are both advised to take Arnica 30c in the Wet dose twice daily for LIFE and you will observe the difference it will make to your status of wellness.
Visit
ARNICA THE MIRACLE REMEDY
http://www.joedelivera.com/?p=66
Hello Dr. Joe
My baby is 4 month 18 days old she has gas problem, gerd and constipation too. Should I use Nat phos 6x and what for gas and constipation. Please help
I shall copy my default therapy for Baby GERD that I have prescribed for hundreds of babies which I hope will help your baby too. The remedy is Nat Phos 6x which is a Biochemic Cell Salt and is NOT a drug. It is absolutely safe in use and you may like to look it up on Google.
Nat Phos 6x tablet dissolved in milk is given immediately after a feed. Start with half tablet before a feed and the balance given immediately after, dissolved in milk, but you will not exceed 6 tablets in 24 hours.
You may like to try to reduce the quantity of milk you give for each feed to enable baby’s digestion to stabilize. You will however feed more often. It is essential that you burp baby immediately after each feed.
You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.
It is best not to vaccinate Baby till s/he is over a year old as the after effects in some cases can add to the problems with GERD.
Do not give Baby any solid food till s/he is over 8 months of age.
You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that Nat Phos 6x will help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.
Report progress in 24 hours and as often as you wish on this thread.
If you discover that baby does not respond to the Nat Phos 6x alone and this has occurred in a few cases, you will contact me again and I shall then prescribe another remedy to reinforce the action of Nat Phos 6x.
You will stop all other drugs you may be giving baby if you start on my therapy.
Is there any information on how to lower a high LDL cholesterol results. My husband uses wet dose arnica, 2x/day as well as #10 cell salts after meals, 2x/day. Just did blood work and result is 175 LDL.
Thank you for your prompt response to the question about my husband’s LDL cholesterol. I shall have him continue with this treatment and ask for a retest in a few months.
Hi dr joe
I want to tell you the situation of my two week old daughter.
since she became 2 weeks shes having cramps which are really painful because she sometimes wakes up crying and she cries loud. I notice that shes windy and I always have to burp her. I hear her gut making noise as if theres water inside. I hear some liquid coming above in her throat but she swallows it back and after every feeding almostshe spits up. I think its sour and painful because she grumps and cries. She also cries after every feeding and when shes having cramps she becomes very red in her face and has a tight belly and puts her legs to her belly. Ive ordered colic calm still waiting hope it will work,
what do you advise? Shes exclusively breastfed.
thank you
At 2 weeks old, I do not think that you have anything to worry about and it is best that you do not give any medication like the ‘colic calm’ you have ordered.
Infants can react to their mothers milk if they are overfed and you can try stopping her sucking in the middle of a feed and burp her. You will give her a break of say half hour to digest the milk and let her suck again.
In the meanwhile order Nat Phos 6x Biochemic Cell Salt Tablets but do not give them to her, till you observe how she responds to the new feeding protocol. Report progress.
thank you mister delivera for your quick response!
She’s not reacting any different. Still having pain and cries a lot. Today i’ve noticed that her voice is hoarse when she cries. Is that normal? I suspect she has silent reflux. Her tongue is also white. A doctor said this could indicate a bad digestion. She also has hiccups after a while being fed. Now i’m not sure whether those cramps are from her gut or stomach…
The Nat Phos 6x I prescribed will help her to digest her milk without the current symptoms.
I shall copy my default therapy for Baby GERD which I have prescribed to hundreds of babies which I hope will help your baby too.
The remedy that has proved to be very effective for Baby GERD is:
Nat Phos 6x tablet dissolved in milk given immediately after a feed. Start with half tablet but if the response is not as expected, you may increase to a full tablet but you will not exceed 6 tablets in 24 hours.
You may like to try to reduce the quantity of milk you give for each feed to enable baby’s digestion to stabilize. You will however feed more often. It is essential that you burp baby immediately after each feed.
You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.
It is best not to vaccinate Baby till s/he is over a year old as the after effects in some cases can add to the problems with GERD.
Do not give Baby any solid food till s/he is over 8 months of age.
You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that Nat Phos 6x will help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.
Report progress in 24 hours and as often as you wish on this thread.
If you discover that baby does not respond to the Nat Phos 6x alone and this has occurred in a few cases, you will contact me again and I shall then prescribe another remedy to reinforce the action of Nat Phos 6x.
Dear Mr. Joe,
I am 57 ( Male) and reading with interest your posts, especially on GERD treatment. I am taking Omeprazole 20mg before breakfast for last 8~9 months or so and feeling better as seems it has subsidised my heartburn for time being. Few days back I stopped taking it but could not resist as symptoms (sore throat, heartburn ) came back. Today reluctantly took again in the morning and feeling little better.
My question is:
Can I take Nat Phos 6x tab along with Omeprazole 20mg. I like to start it this afternoon..
Will much appreciate your early response, if possible..
Kind regards,
It is very likely that you suffer from Hyperacidity or Gastritis, aka GERD (Gastro Esophagal Reflux Disease) and I shall copy my default therapy that has helped hundreds of patients to overcome this disease for which doctors usually prescribe PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) drugs which are dangerous and can cause many other more serious problem when used in the long term.
You will hopefully discover that my therapy aka “Joepathy” will help you within 24 hours after you have taken your first dose after a meal.
The remedies you will order are as follows:
Nat Phos 6x dose 2-3 tablets taken immediately after each of 3 meals.
This remedy accelerates the passage of food down the gut and prevents the formation of acid which would otherwise reflux causing GERD.
Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.
This remedy works to repair the damaged Esophagus which has metastasised to resemble the gut to deal with the Hcl refluxed into it causing severe distress. Arnica works with the Nat Phos to speedily cure the problem.
You can also take a PROBIOTIC like Bifilac daily. A Probiotic will help by changing the balance of the Bacteria in the gut and will contribute to your cure and help to ensure that your problem does not recur. After your problem with GERD is stabilised you can take the Arnica in the Wet dose nightly before bed and the Probiotic daily for life. You do not need to take Nat Phos daily but you will keep a stock to be used whenever you feel uncomfortable after a meal when you will take 2-3 tablets as necessary.
Please observe the following simple rules:
Do not eat large meals. Eat small meals but more often if you feel hungry. Do not drink more that a few sips of water after your meals. This is to prevent the further dilution of your gastric juice which can then reflux into your Esophagus which results in GERD.
It is important that you do not go to bed for at least 2 hours after dinner as food will take about this time to digest and it is best to stay awake and upright to enable your food to digest before going to bed.
No fatty food, alcohol, coffee, preserved meats like sausages, ham, bacon as they contain Saltpeter which will antidote the remedies listed immediately.
If you suffer from a stomach ache or you feel your stomach puffing up before a meal during the day between meals, this is usually due to hunger pains, caused by your gastric juices attacking the inner lining and the wall of your stomach. The simple remedy is to eat some food like a biscuit or a banana between meals to keep the gastric juice away from digesting the stomach wall which results in a stomach ache which in some cases can be acute.
You must drink at least 3 liters of liquids, preferably water daily and you must also exercise for at least half hour daily. It is important to sweat it out as this is all part of my therapy to overcome GERD.
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in a 5ml Liquid Alcohol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before sipping a capful of the bottle twice daily.
It is understood that the patient will stop all other drugs which s/he may be taking for this ailment.
Do not use Coffee, Cola beverages, preserved foods like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter.
You will not need the PPI Drug Omeprazole when you start on my therapy. You can take up to 6 tablets of NP after a meal to trear your GERD and when you find that you do not want this high dose, you can then reduce it.
NP is NOT a drug and is absolutely safe in use even for babies.
It is a Biochemic Cell Salt. Check it out on Google.
Humbly obliged Sir for explaining in depth… Will strictly follow and revert….
Stay blessed.
Regards,
Dear Mr. De Livera.
I have read through the posts about GERD in babies and would like to try Nath Phos 6X. My daughter is 6 weeks old and has been having reflux since she was born (I didn’t realize it soon enough, I just thought her grunting was a sign of her hunger, since she didn’t cry before the evening feedings).
Well, she started having colicky episodes and the pediatrician prescribed Nizatidine (axid) for her reflux symptoms (arch back, wheezing, hoarseness, crying after burping,etc.) I have to mention that she had a tongue tie removed from both, upper and lower area. I’m not sure whether the scar tissue developed and is restricting her sucking again. She makes a clicking sound when she nurses (it could also be a sign of a fast let-down) and pulls my breast. She nurses often-every 1.5-2 hours. I’m also on a non-dairy diet and we both take probiotics. Yesterday we lowered her medication dose to 0.3 ml and the hoarse voice came back with moving her tongue constantly as if she had something in her mouth. I also gave her Colic Calm (that helped with a colic but not with reflux) and slippery elm (started just yesterday). If what I’m giving her won’t help, I’ll start her on Nath Phos. My question is, do I start with a half a pill or the entire pill? Do I stop all homeopathic remedies (including probiotics) and the medication? What can I expect after the first 24 hours and when should I be concerned? Thank you so much for your help and appreciated advise. Sincerely, Martina
The time here in Sri Lanka is coming on to midnight and I shall copy my default therapy for Baby GERD to enable you to get the remedies ASAP.
You can start with half tablet of Nat Phos 6x and if baby does not respond you will give baby the balance after a feed.
I shall copy my default therapy for Baby GERD which I have prescribed to hundreds of babies which I hope will help your baby too.
The remedy that has proved to be very effective for Baby GERD is:
Nat Phos 6x tablet dissolved in milk given immediately after a feed. Start with half tablet but if the response is not as expected, you may increase to a full tablet but you will not exceed 6 tablets in 24 hours.
You may like to try to reduce the quantity of milk you give for each feed to enable baby’s digestion to stabilize. You will however feed more often. It is essential that you burp baby immediately after each feed.
You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.
It is best not to vaccinate Baby till s/he is over a year old as the after effects in some cases can add to the problems with GERD.
Do not give Baby any solid food till s/he is over 8 months of age.
You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that Nat Phos 6x will help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.
Report progress in 24 hours and as often as you wish on this thread.
If you discover that baby does not respond to the Nat Phos 6x alone and this has occurred in a few cases, you will contact me again and I shall then prescribe another remedy to reinforce the action of Nat Phos 6x.
You seem to have studied my therapy for Baby GERD but I shall copy it below for the record:
I shall copy my default therapy for Baby GERD which I have prescribed to hundreds of babies which I hope will help your baby too.
The remedy that has proved to be very effective for Baby GERD is:
Nat Phos 6x tablet dissolved in milk given immediately after a feed. Start with half tablet but if the response is not as expected, you may increase to a full tablet but you will not exceed 6 tablets in 24 hours.
You may like to try to reduce the quantity of milk you give for each feed to enable baby’s digestion to stabilize. You will however feed more often. It is essential that you burp baby immediately after each feed.
You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.
It is best not to vaccinate Baby till s/he is over a year old as the after effects in some cases can add to the problems with GERD.
Do not give Baby any solid food till s/he is over 8 months of age.
You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that Nat Phos 6x will help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.
Report progress in 24 hours and as often as you wish on this thread.
If you discover that baby does not respond to the Nat Phos 6x alone and this has occurred in a few cases, you will contact me again and I shall then prescribe another remedy to reinforce the action of Nat Phos 6x.
Mr. De Livera.
Thank you for your prompt response. I’m still trying to give her the slippery elm and see how that’s going to work. If I see no results, I’ll try the Nat Phos. I will let you know in about a week how we are doing. Would it be Ok to give her probiotics with Nat Phos?
Thank you so much.
M.
Dear Dr Joe: You have helped me over the years and have not been able to reach You via Your web site. Could You Please suggest remedies for Carpal Tunnel and Raynauds Disease that I have been diagnosed having. I am at noels321@hotmail.com
Thank You, noels
You have diagnosed your problems as Carpal Tunnel (Syndrome) and Reyanaud’s Disease.
How did you arrive at this diagnosis?
Did you consult doctors and if so what drugs did they prescribe and what was your response to them?
What is your age, sex, height and weight?
Are your hands and feet usually cold ?
Do you do any regular exercise?
Respected Dr. Joe,
At the outset, I wish to thank you for the noble service to the humanity without charging any free. Normally, Homeopaths don’t reveal the names of medicines.
I am 51, female, vegetarian, poor digestion, constipation, underweight (38 kgs) and my ailments are as follows:
1. Since childhood suffering from frequent cold, cough and vomiting with lots of phlegm. When vomiting starts, wheezing also starts and I take Nebulizer or Asthalin 2 mg Tabs.
2. After I take cough syrup, the phglem thickens and I start getting sinus, fever etc for which I instill nasal drops.
3. At the age of 41, I had fibroids 11×11 size and battled against heavy bleeding, anaemia for nearly 4 years. I tried 4 different treatments, Unani system, Embolization, Enzymes and then Homeo. Ultimately I got relief in Homeo but the fibroid is still there. I have lost lots of cells and look older than my age. No anaemia now.
4. Since 2 years suffering from Acid Reflux. I take Molasses, Honey, Wheatgrass etc. I also tried homeo but not much relief. I cough up acids and have choking sensation in throat and need to take Nebulizer to breathe freely. Then I happened to see your web-site.
Now, I am taking Natphos 6x thrice, Arnica 6c wet dose twice for Acid Reflux since a week and I have relief.
Since I have cold, sinus, rattling noise in the throat now, I am taking Eup Perf 200 wet dose 4 times yesterday and I have relief.
Now my query is , I still have lots of cough and phlegm and am frequently required to clear it every now and then, especially in the office. At times I can’t make out if they are due to sinus or Acid reflux as the symptoms are same in both.
Pl. let me know if I need to take any medicine to reduce phlegm and can I continue to take Molasses, Wheatgrass, Honey?.
Thanks and Regards
Parimala
Please list ALL your ailments to enable me to advise you. You will have to quote your doctor’s diagnosis as your statements indicate that you suffer from:
GERD or Acid Reflux
Asthma
Fibroids
Cold
Catarrh
Also indicate which ailments have to be treated in a descending order of importance as they cannot all be treated at the same time because the remedies may antidote each other.
Hello Dr. Joe
My baby is 4 month 18 days old she has gas problem, gerd and constipation too. Should I use Nat phos 6x and what for gas and constipation. Please help
I responded to your baby’s problem last night and believe that you have not read it. I shall copy it below:
Submitted on 2015/03/25 at 9:06 PM | In reply to Shalini.
I shall copy my default therapy for Baby GERD that I have prescribed for hundreds of babies which I hope will help your baby too. The remedy is Nat Phos 6x which is a Biochemic Cell Salt and is NOT a drug. It is absolutely safe in use and you may like to look it up on Google.
Nat Phos 6x tablet dissolved in milk is given immediately after a feed. Start with half tablet before a feed and the balance given immediately after, dissolved in milk, but you will not exceed 6 tablets in 24 hours.
You may like to try to reduce the quantity of milk you give for each feed to enable baby’s digestion to stabilize. You will however feed more often. It is essential that you burp baby immediately after each feed.
You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.
It is best not to vaccinate Baby till s/he is over a year old as the after effects in some cases can add to the problems with GERD.
Do not give Baby any solid food till s/he is over 8 months of age.
You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that Nat Phos 6x will help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.
Report progress in 24 hours and as often as you wish on this thread.
If you discover that baby does not respond to the Nat Phos 6x alone and this has occurred in a few cases, you will contact me again and I shall then prescribe another remedy to reinforce the action of Nat Phos 6x.
You will stop all other drugs you may be giving baby if you start on my therapy.
Dr. Joe,
I am in est time zone. Thanks for reply. I just read it. I am not giving her any durg, just natural gripe water for gas and sugar syrup for constipation. Will Nat phos work for constipation too? I will start your medicine and will report in 24 hours.
Regards
It is possible that you are presuming that I live in the US. On the contrary, I live in Sri Lanka which is diametrically opposite the US on the globe.
Nat Phos 6x will help with baby’s constipation and will also settle any problems with the non digestion of milk which occurs in many cases I have been treating which you can access by doing a search under “Baby GERD” on my Website.
You will please follow my instructions in my prescription to STOP all other drugs you may be giving baby today.
Thank you Dr. Joe. My baby is doing much better.
Regards
Dr. Joe,
I am in est time zone. Thanks for reply. I just read it. I am not giving her any durg, just natural gripe water for gas and sugar syrup for constipation. Will Nat phos work for constipation too? I will start your medicine and will report in 24 hours.
Regards
Sorry for this new thread, ignore it please
Hello Dr. I need ur help for my son , who is 30 years old. He was suffering from fever since 16/03 . Dr prescribed him 5 days antibiotic and pan d for 5 days. His fever some time goes 99 and some time normal .dr advised blood test urine routine sugar fasting chest xray . Findings are xray ok sugar fasting 100 SGPT 61,SGOT 21, TLC 14200 neutrophils 65 lymphocytes30,CRP0 .11mg/dl,bilirubin 0.1 homoglobin 14.6 urine routine normal. It has been informed that he is habituted of taking Nitrosun 10 and spasmoproxyvan since a long time. This fact of taking these two tabs came to our knowledge recently.he has become abused of taking these two tabs. Sir. Is there any jeopathy remedy to overcome this abused. Sir. Our whole family life has disbursed. Please guide me to get rid of his drug abuse habit.
Presently Dr has not prescribed him any medicines. Since yesterday noon he has no fever.
Regards R p s Prakash kolkata
I regret that I cannot take your son’s case as it is too complicated for me to handle on my website especially since you have reported twice that you cannot read the advice I sent you due to some problem in your computer.
I remembered that you informed me that you live in Kolkata and you can consult Dr Prasanta Banerji at
PRASANTA BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION
http://www.pbhrfindia.org/
0091 33-30582817/ 30582818/ 30582818
You consulted me some weeks ago for your Prostate and Urinary problems but you have not had the courtesy of reporting your response and if my therapy has helped you. I have also prescribed for your wife’s Arthritis and here again you have not reported any response.
I presume that you expect me to continue to prescribe for you and your family members as I do not charge for my therapy and you are taking advantage of this fact by posting more problems like your son’s when the least I can expect from you is to have the courtesy of reporting if my therapy has helped you and your wife.
Dear sir. I and my wife started taking medicines since today morning only. It took time to get the medicine.i took arnica and conium 6c wet dose in the morning empty stomach with a half an hour intervals and same dose will take in night at bed time. My wife took arnica 6c wet dose like me and also nat phos 6x 2 tabs after breakfast.and lunch and will take 2 tabs at bed time.i hope our dose time is ok.i am happy to report that my urine burning sensation has considerably reduced.i shall keep on reporting the developments. Sir. Here Dr p Banerjee is rarely remains available for consultation.his clinic other Dr attend the patient.sir. I once again request u to advise me remedy for my son drug abuse antidote. Thanks and regard R P S Prakash kolkata
Dear sir. Me and my wife are taking medicine since 28/03. I feel improvement w r t leg itching and leg rough skin, I can say it is cent percent gone. But after urination, burning is some time decrease and some time again increase. In night no of times of urinal visit has now became less. One thing I observe that after drinking of water. I have to visit to urinal.. I do not feel any burning during urine, I feel after the urine that too at the mouth of the penis and its sourrindinng area.the burning sensation subsidize within 5 to 10 mts maximum.flow of urine has improved. Sir. My wife is also feeling better in her back pain,also feel that her body has become light. Yesterday she went for her sugar fasting, urine routine test and ecg test required for life insurance policy. The Dr reported to insurance company that ecg issue is there. They did the insurance with some additional premiumm
Dear sir. Me and my wife are taking medicine since 28/03. I feel improvement w r t leg itching and leg rough skin, I can say it is cent percent gone. But after urination, burning is some time decrease and some time again increase. In night no of times of urinal visit has now became less. One thing I observe that after drinking of water. I have to visit to urinal.. I do not feel any burning during urine, I feel after the urine that too at the mouth of the penis and its sourrindinng area.the burning sensation subsidize within 5 to 10 mts maximum.flow of urine has improved. Sir. My wife is also feeling better in her back pain,also feel that her body has become light. Yesterday she went for her sugar fasting, urine routine test and ecg test required for life insurance policy. The Dr reported to insurance company that ecg issue is there. They did the insurance with some additional premium. my wife has never taken any B P medicine nor complained about any chest issue. Please advise the remedy. Sir I once again request u to prescribe remedy for my son for substance abuse. with regards R P S Prakash kolkata
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I was interested in the post I received this morning which was repeated 16 times over and was intrigued to read the text of this link which I am copying below for visitors to read in a few minutes.
It details the problems that I faced on the ABC Homeopathy Forum which is the first of many Forums that sprang up in the early days of this 21st Century when the WWW made it possible to exchange views in a matter of seconds in comparison to the slower speeds Mail that we used, a few years before.
Debate on the ABC Homeopathy Forum on “Joepathy” July 22 2014
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/438284/1
To Fitness
I happened to read your statement in your post above:
“A particular person is promoting Nat-Phos as THE remedy for curing GERD by selectively quoting parents benefiting from his Nat-Phos protocol.”
As I am the person to whom you refer, I wish to dispel the doubts that you seek to propagate of my therapy aka “Joepathy” which helps Baby GERD usually in under 6 hours or 2 feeds and CURES it in under 3 days in direct comparison to your classical therapy which can take up to 2 weeks to do so. In the meanwhile the poor suffering baby and the parents continue to spend anxious days and nights wondering when the agony of the reflux of the milk will finally end. In some cases these mothers have consulted me and discovered the miracle of Joepathy which CURES their problem overnight.
I would like to add that I treat all patients free of charge and in Sri Lanka where I live, I also provide the Homeopathic remedy free of charge.
You stated:
“THE NAT-PHOS MISINFORMATION
Homeopathy works on “individualization” i.e. the remedy for GERD which will work on one child may not work on another. There are several remedies for GERD. A particular person is promoting Nat-Phos as THE remedy for curing GERD by selectively quoting parents benefiting from his Nat-Phos protocol. This is not only incorrect but totally against the principles of “individualization” in homeopathy. I am sure desperate parents would do anything to get the cure but blindly going for Nat-Phos is not the route as many have found the hard way. It’s a case of common sense & statistics. If you give Nat-Phos to 100 kids for GERD, some are bound to improve, it doesn’t mean that it’s THE remedy for GERD. Next time someone touts Nat-Phos as the remedy for GERD ask him the statistics first. ”
I do not subscribe to your ‘classical’ theory that a cure of an ailment is only possible by ‘individualization’ in Homeopathy. You may perhaps be aware that I am 85 years of age and am the most senior Homeopath to be actively involved in helping suffering humanity in the whole world. I do so purely for the deep satisfaction I derive in so doing at my advanced age, if only to disprove types like you and a few others who take umbrage at my Joepathy perhaps prompted by jealousy, of the success that attends the CURES of the many ailments and diseases as confirmed by the patients themselves on my website:
http://www.joedelivera.com
I do not think that you are aware that I am not the only Homeopath to use my “This for That” therapy in treating patients as Dr Prasanta Banerji, a qualified Homeopath who treats over 1500 patients daily free of charge like me, in his own:
PRASANTA BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION
http://www.pbhrfindia.org/
states:
“The Banerji Protocol is a new method of treatment using homeopathic medicines. Specific medicines are prescribed for specific diseases. Diseases are diagnosed using modern/state of the art methods. This is done because modern diagnostic approaches incorporate and help in the selection of medicines so that specific medicines could be easily prescribed for specific diseases. This is not practiced in classical homeopathy.
The concept of specific homeopathic medicine for a disease based on symptoms was first perceived and practiced by Late Dr. Pareshnath Banerji. With the passage of time and the availability of new diagnostic tools like Ultrasonography, MRIs, c-ancer markers and other advanced tests, we were able to further streamline the treatment protocols accurately. The efficiency of this streamlining is reflected by the encouraging results of The Banerji Protocol.
In The Banerji Protocol of treatment, mixtures of remedies or frequent repetitions of the remedies are used when required. This is not practiced in classical homeopathy. The combination of two potentized medicines, we use, are made in a meaningful way based on years of clinical experiments and observations by us. They are mixed for special advantages in treatment, so that the aggravation due to drugs can be checked, side effects of the medicines can be abated, quick and uneventful recovery can be ensured in a much shorter time.
Specific homeopathic medicines are also used for supportive care. Homeopathic medicines prescribed on constitutional grounds may play a useful role in supportive and palliative for patients with malignant disease.”
You have also stated:
” Next time someone touts Nat-Phos as the remedy for GERD ask him the statistics first. ”
You are invited to visit my website to read the statistics of grateful mothers on:
http://www.joedelivera.com/?s=baby+gerd
and
http://www.joedelivera.com/?s=gerd
You may like to know that I have weathered many years of criticism on the ABC and 3 other Homeopathic Forums successfully and
emerged with flying colours purely on the basis of the same statistics that you demanded which are all available for you to study and hopefully accept on the basis of the patients own confirmation of their cures which some considered as “Miraculous”.
For the record I shall copy my default therapy for Baby GERD which I have prescribed for hundreds of babies below. I am proud to state that the rate of success of using my Joepathy is over 95% as can be proved by an analysis of the statements by parents on my website all of which are not included in the 2 links above.
The remedy that has proved to be very effective for Baby GERD is:
Nat Phos 6x tablet dissolved in milk given immediately after a feed. Start with half tablet but if the response is not as expected, you may increase to a full tablet but you will not exceed 6 tablets in 24 hours.
You may like to try to reduce the quantity of milk you give for each feed to enable baby’s digestion to stabilize. You will however feed more often. It is essential that you burp baby immediately after each feed.
You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.
It is best not to vaccinate Baby till s/he is over a year old as the after effects in some cases can add to the problems with GERD.
Do not give Baby any solid food till s/he is over 8 months of age.
You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that Nat Phos 6x will help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.
Report progress in 24 hours and as often as you wish on this thread.
If you discover that baby does not respond to the Nat Phos 6x alone and this has occurred in a few cases, you will contact me again and I shall then prescribe another remedy to reinforce the action of Nat Phos 6x.
I would like to add in conclusion that it is rarely that I have to waste my time in defending my Joepathy but I felt that I should do so here on this thread to dispel the misinformation that you seek to spread of
my Joepathy which CURES the ailments of suffering humanity free of charge.
Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From miriams on 2014-07-20
Hi Fitness
Thank you for the reply. I will certainly try this remedy. I need to order it I should be able to start it on Tues.
Can I ask you: –
1) Is the remedy you suggested a different one from the tissue salt calc phos ( I think the full name is calcium phosphate)
2) do I stop giving Zantac while I try this remedy. I have stopped Zantac before while trying remedies and it was always stressful, as Zantac does give some relief to my daughter. If you say to stop then I will follow your lead.
Thanks again
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From miriams on 2014-07-20
To Joe,
I have tried your protocol, i.e. nat phos for my daughter ( hylands brand) and nat phos for me and I was taking arnica twice daily but it did not resolve my daughter’s condition. I did this for about 5 days. I stopped as it was not working and started by daughter on zantac, which I hate but I have 3 other small children to consider.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Miriams,
Its the potentized form, not the tissue salt. These work totally differently.
You have to stop Zantac while using the remedy or you will never know what is working.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Joe,
I don’t doubt your sincerity, its your competence that I am questioning.
You can use remedies any way you like, please don’t call it homeopathy as I am sure you know how homeopathy works only on three basic principles.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-21
To Fitness
I can see that you have not read and UNDERSTOOD the impact of my last post addressed to you as you would not otherwise have questioned my ‘competence’ to help patients who consult me, both here on the ABC and on my Website.
I have already stated in my last post that I did originally use the same methodology that you and other classical homeopaths use to elicit the symptoms and treat them with that elusive single remedy in accordance with your studies in college. I realized that this resulted in a waste of time which left the patient suffering from his/her ailment while I (or you) followed the protocol dictated by the tenets of classical homeopathy which I rejected, in common with Dr P Banerji many years ago, as the therapy I prescribed just did NOT work.
You must accept in principle that a patient consults a physician to treat the ailment presented and is not interested in the methodology used to do so by the doctor. The patient expects to be CURED asap and this is very relevant from the standpoint of anxious mothers who present their babies with GERD and expect to have them cured ASAP which unfortunately does not occur in your case in common with many other classical homeopaths who are consulted on the ABC and other Homeopathic Forums.
I did not attend any Homeopathic College as Homeopathy is only a Hobby to me to which I am dedicated. I do treat a few selected patients by appointment and you will perhaps understand the reason why I choose to do so, as I prefer to treat difficult cases like Robert Ray whom I CURED of the after effect of 3 strokes he had suffered in 2002 shortly after he consulted me on the ABC in 2002.
http://www.joedelivera.com/?p=388
This is another reason for my establishing my own Website to enable anyone in distress, anywhere in the world to consult me and you can read the many accounts of CURES, I have achieved as confirmed by the patients themselves. I repeat again that I do so free of charge unlike you and others who do charge for advice on your own websites.
You stated:
“You can use remedies any way you like, please don’t call it homeopathy as I am sure you know how homeopathy works only on three basic principles.”
I repeat again that I do not prescribe on the basis of classical homeopathy as my therapy has been dubbed “JOEPATHY” by a coterie of classical homeopaths who were in the
habit of challenging every post I made over 5 years ago on 3 Homeopathic Forums which made me establish my own Website which I presume you have visited as requested by me. I am proud to state that I practice “JOEPATHY” and am surprised that this term attracts over 2000 hits on Google.
I would like to copy a page listed on Google from the Homeopathy and More website I founded in 2006 with a friend Praveen Wadhwa who is a Computer Engineer by profession and like me was not qualified in Homeopathy but was dedicated to this Science. He wrote the software for this Website but has sadly not been active on it for the last 4 years.
Joepathy – My Reaction
By: msrao
October 29 2008
Dear Sir,
This is the first time I am coming across the term ‘Joepathy’.Perhaps this is due to my inadequate exposure to the outside world or may be indifference.In fact as soon as I came to know the existence of such a web (through you) I logged into it with some excitement. While doing so I trespassed in to neighboring websites as well!To say the least I was shocked to see the vituperative language used by your detractors. While I am not competent to go into the merits of the dispute I cannot help myself from expressing my opinion on this vexed issue. My knowledge of homeopathy is rudimentary which I picked up from my frequent visits to homeopathic stores and desultory reading of some elementary books on the subject. But as a layman I think I am entitled to express my views on the subject.
As I understand the whole problem revolves around specific medicine for a particular ailment as against the totality of symptoms advocated by the classical homeopaths. When I visit any homeopathic stores, I find that some of the internationally renowned firms dishing out medicines for specific ailments containing combination of a number of homeopathic medicines, whereas the method followed by you , is at least, a single remedy at a time (as I understand). Is it not more ‘criminal’ than the method followed by you?
Your plea is that you have found a particular medicine(drug)cures more diseases than mentioned in the conventional materia medica (by dint of your experience)and as such to be included in the materia medica, of course after proper investigation.
If a drug or medicine happens to be panacea for a host of ailments, then, what is wrong in prescribing that medicine and sharing the knowledge with others?
I have seen a number of homeopaths (classical or otherwise) prescribing one medicine for the morning and another for evening. Does it not go against the grain of pure homeopathic principles? Slowly and irrevocably we are slipping into combination theory, in a novel way, whether we admit it or not.
Your suggestion that the provings should be carried forward and not content ourselves with already known is noteworthy. This calls for an open mind on the part of medical fraternity.
I would request you to ignore the diatribe and continue to serve the humanity. At one stage you expressed your anguish that you were spending more time in defending yourself than attending to the needs of patients. It is a pity!
I think I have understood the case and my remarks make sense.
Long live Joe the maverick!
With regards,
M.S.Rao
Re: Joepathy – My Reaction
By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
October 29 2008
I was delighted to read your post which made me realize that many people who have read my posts on the Homeopathic Forums I used to visit daily in the past, have finally realized that the therapy I have tried to promote for the last 5 years on various Homeopathic forums is based on the “this for that” therapy aka “Joepathy”. I did so as I discovered that it was far more effective than the stereotype classical method that some classically trained homeopaths use. Please note that this term Joepathy owes its origin to the same classical homeopathic fraternity and I often feel that in coining this term which they originally used in a derisive sense, they unwittingly honoured me as this term Jeopathy is now internationally accepted to describe the direct allopathic form of therapy that I use. Google picked it up some time ago and lists some of my more interesting cases numbering over 120.
I have persisted in using Joepathy to help my patients as I have invariably found that the elusive single remedy that the learned classical homeopath finally prescribes, according to the rules, for the totality of the symptoms that a patient presents from the top of his head does not usually work. As a result the patient is sent home in greater distress than when he consulted the homeopath who charges a handsome fee for each consultation. In my case as I presume that you are aware, I do not levy any charge for my services as I am not a professional qualified homeopath. To me Homeopathy is only a hobby which I practice in my free time as it gives me a deep sense of satisfaction to heal anyone who consults me which many do after they have visited doctors, ayurvedic physicians and classical homeopaths. They consult me as a last resort and are agreeably surprised to discover that their ailment from which they had suffered sometimes for years is history, often overnight.
It is the criticism of my therapy that irked me resulting in my spending more time in defending Joepathy. I have always maintained that it is the patient who comes first and not the method used, classical or Joepathy that matters. I cannot understand the reason why I have been subjected to this constant criticism as the proof of the pudding is there in all the forums for anyone to read and the number of grateful patients who have testified to have been cured is too numerous to be counted.
I would like you to please visit the link below and read the discussion that ensued some years ago on another forum where I have spelt out in detail the reason for my preferring my own Joepathy over the classical method and I shall be interested to have your response to this post. I believe that comments from those who are interested in using the Joepathy form of therapy can help to advance the progress of Homeopathy.
http://www.otherhealth.com/homeopathy-discussion/6576-all-ho…
Re:Joepathy – My Reaction
By: msrao
October 31 2008
Dear Sir,
I have gone through the website suggested by you and other related websites.What I gather is ….the members have taken umbrage at your using the forum for propagating your brand of “pathy”.It is understandable.But it is sad to see that the discussion has degenerated into downright abuse.
The learned members are of the view that it is unethical and sometimes dangerous to prescribe medicines solely on the basis of a few physical symptoms without taking into account the totality of symptoms.This is perfectly in line with the basic principles of homeopathy.But this is an ideal situation.However the present day life demands a little flexibility.
What baffles me is that even veterans like Nash say that a peculiar physical symptom clinches the selection of the remedy irrespective of the nature of the disease.I am also of the opinion that taking the case in an elaborate manner is a luxury which we can ill afford,when a simpler but effective method can be adopted.That is what exactly Mr.Joe is trying to do.I am not suggesting that homeopathic principles as propounded by the founder should be thrown to winds.We should strive to follow it where ever possible ,but mulishly adhering to it in the face of fast changing lifestyle is not going to advance the cause of homeopathy nor will help the public.The array of homeopathic medicines and the radical literature available in the market is a witness to the silent revolution that is taking place.I have seen many a successful practitioners adopting a slightly different approach.Painting Mr.Joe as some one with sinister motives is most uncalled for.
Let me recant my recent experience.Two months ago I traveled from Detroit to LasVegas (4hrsflight).A few hours after landing I got excruciating pain in the lower legs.I attributed it to arthritis the most common ailment of advancing years .As I was almost “crippled”I took a pain killer to tide over the crisis.But I felt that the root cause lay elsewhere.I felt that this was something to do with poor circulation of blood in the lower legs.(as I had read and seen on TV).I had also read that Ferrum Phos and Arnica would be useful in such cases.I took these and in a few days I was relieved of the pain and it has not returned since.I did not take any mental symptoms in to account.Q uackery at its best!I crave the indulgence of the members.I do not pretend to educate the members nor is my intention that others should follow suit.I understand that this occurs when the heart becomes “inefficient”and these medicines tone up the muscles.
The ultimate aim of any system is to give relief if not complete cure.If any medicine is helpful in this pursuit it is most welcome,call it by any name.
I abhor to call ‘joepathy’ as a separate system.The same homeopathic medicines are used except that emphasis is on physical symptoms.What about tissue salts …..the whole philosophy being that deficiency of any one of the twelve salts identified by the founder causes disease,without undue emphasis on mental symptoms.The homeopaths have taken this system under their umbrella!
Let not ‘Joe’ issue be blown out of proportion and my humble request is that his experience should be utilised for the benefit of mankind.
I stand corrected,if I am wrong.
With regards,
MS.Rao.
We Love Mr.Joe in this forum and we have great respect for his contributions to humanity. And in this forum, we go much beyond just “homeopathy”. The term homeopathy might have emerged 200 years ago, but the principle ” Like cures like ” is very very ancient. Infact, many vedic literatures talk in detail about the efficacy of this principle.
We make our own remedies ( from allopathic drugs, ayurvedic, edible nuts, siddha medicines etc) which follow this principle, but the method of preparation, may not follow what is told in Organon 5 , 6 or earlier. But all these self made remedies have worked wonders on many, because there is no violation of the basic principle what nature has laid down for the benefits of humanity. Infact, Arnica for example, has about 4000 listed symptoms in materia medica. And there are another 1000 symptoms that we can add. And this is precisely what Mr.Joe has proved.
Niether the provers are gods, nor the people who recorded the provings are!
Let us accept our knowledge is self-limiting….
Best
Garcot
I am copying a post from my own Website from Jani which arrived yesterday which gives you an insight into the patients response to the standard case taking protocol which left this patient annoyed and wondering what classical homeopathy was all about and whether it is designed to heal or to keep the patient in a state of suspended animation with orders to report progress weekly at the cost of another fee charged by the classical homeopath.
Jani
Submitted on 2014/07/20 at 11:44 AM
I have no doubt they will be convinced sir. (she refers to her 2 daughters)
It is not that they do not trust Joepathy—on the contrary, they are scared of the time (and perhaps the information dug up) by case taking in homeopathy.
One good example : A homeopath diagnosed me as a Platina personality. Personally, I have no issues with any classification but if you read Boerricke you know how terrorizing it can be.
One personality trait for Platina—nymphomania.
I can assure you that as a Hashimoto patient for over 25 years, any interest in that area is anathema for me. people lie about what they feel—-which is why I am citing a medical conditions!
But when you read Boericke, which is easily available online, it can be scary. My homeopath (actually my old one, currently I am under no treatment except Joepathy for eczema) takes the view that a Platina personality means a person able to attract people from the opposite sexes without even making an effort—–but you know it can be scary, if not offensive, if someone were to classify you with nyphomaniacs or call you suicidal when you are not, or at least feel you are not!
Anyway, case taking can also be very time consuming—my daughters hesitate to take that much time out, when they feel their “illnesses” are not that serious.
I wanted them to try, because like you, I am fascinated by what arnica can do—and the wonder why other practitioners are not looking at it more closely. I am your fan, sir, for just that reason.
If, as I hope you have read my post, you may now understand the reason why I persist in using my own therapy, JOEPATHY as I have ample proof that it CURES unlike the Classical Homeopathy that you prescribe, which invariably does not.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Miriams, please continue posting your case updates here. I won’t spoil this post arguing with Joe. I have stated facts, he can continue believing what he does.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Evocationer on 2014-07-21
Fitness there is no point arguing. This same argument has been going on for years, it never changes and Mr De Livra never alters the direction or nature of his argument.
Homoeopathy has enemies of all sorts, and the only way we can genuinely oppose them is to continue and do the good work we do. Actions speak far louder than words.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-22
Fitness
Please note that I did not start any argument on this thread with you as it was you that dared to question the efficacy of my therapy.
I have given you concrete evidence of the efficacy of my therapy which is not based on the 2 hour long case taking procedure which a patient commented on only yesterday, which I copied in my last post.
I presume that you are too full of your own ‘classical’ therapy to accept that there are other more effective ways of curing an ailment even after you have concrete evidence that my “Joepathy” works in some wondrous manner. I consider that I am fortunate that I did not qualify in a Homeopathic college only to get brainwashed into believing like you, that a cure is only possible with classical homeopathy, when the facts are otherwise.
There is no question of “belief” in accepting cold hard facts as confirmed by the patients themselves of having being CURED by my Joepathy.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-22
Evocationer
I have just noticed that you too have joined forces with Fitness in insisting that the ailment a patient presents can only be cured with the same ‘classical’ Homeopathy that you both have studied, as I too did about 40 years ago, perhaps before you were born.
I have in previous debates with you given you comprehensive chapter and verse, quoting from the statements of the patients themselves that it is not only through the use of classical homeopathy, complete with the 2 hour long questionnaire that the elusive ‘Single Remedy’ to treat the totality of the symptoms presented by the patient can be prescribed.
I have already informed you that I too did use this same protocol 40 years ago when I was first fascinated by Homeopathy and studied it in my free time as I was and am involved in another profession but decided to investigate this Science after having been cured of my weekly colds.
After the Tsunami hit Sri Lanka in 2004 I was more involved in Homeopathy as I was approached by Homeopaths Without Borders to pave the way to establish facilities in the areas which were affected and it was then that I met Luc who was instrumental in changing my use of dry pellets into using the Wet dose which term I authored with his assent. We did have many interesting arguments with each other as I had at that time discovered the incredible benefits of Arnica as a general tonic but he refused to be swayed by my discovery and like so many classical homeopaths warned me of the danger of using any remedy on a daily basis.
You may like to read his own account on his experience in Sri Lanka on:
http://www.drluc.com/homepath-srilanka.htm
I am now 85 years of age and I am proud to state that I have disproved the classical concept that predicts the danger of taking Arnica 30c daily and have many followers throughout the world who have followed my example.
Here in Sri Lanka I have about 15 friends who at various times in the past have followed my example and are taking Arnica 30 in the Wet dose nightly. It is remarkable how when we meet, we notice that we all seem to have been excused the ravages of time and the normal signs of the advancing years as at 85 (I will be 86 next October), I have often been mistaken for one 20 years younger as I do not have any wrinkles on my skin although my hair is completely grey. My mind is clear and I do still drive to work daily although I leave office around 3.30 to avoid the heavy traffic in Colombo.
I do not take any allopathic drugs whatever and I believe that this is one reason why I do not present any medical problems today. You may like to visit:
The Pill Popping Culture
http://www.joedelivera.com/?s=PILL+POPPING
and read my thoughts on how drugs can ruin the health of an otherwise healthy person. I must add that I spend an hour almost daily on exercise which I do on my True Prone Exercise Cycle listening to music on my iPad Air.
I do not have any aches or pains in my body whatever and annual blood tests prove that I do not have Diabetes and my Cholesterol and Triglyceride levels are the envy of people who are half my age. This is the report I get from my friends who meet me regularly to have their bottles of water they usually bring with them, to be activated with Arnica 30.
This is no idle report made with the intention of converting you or Fitness about the efficacy of my Joepathy but I am doing so in the hope that both of you, who profess to be classical homeopaths, do desist in criticizing me and my Joepathy in future as I have proved beyond doubt that my therapy works.
I do not criticize your pitiful efforts to prescribe your classically generated therapy to unsuspecting patients whom you treat sometimes for weeks on end prescribing one remedy to be followed by another, with no cure. Some of your patients have presented their cases to me on my website and you can verify for yourself how many have been CURED.
The least that I can expect is that you reciprocate my attitude, to NOT criticize me in your daily visits to this ABC. Many others have done so in the past 12 years on this and other Homeopathic Forums and have either faded away but Gavini Murthy who was one of my most belligerent critics finally stated:
“You must have observed that I am not the die hard classical homeopath any more. I now appreciate that homeopathic medicines are capable of curing even when used in the non classical way. ”
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/231958/
As I have stated in another post to you, Dr Prasanta Banerji has also discovered independent of me, that the same “This for That” therapy I use and prescribe is more effective in comparison to the classical homeopathy he used in the past.
I remember reading your statement that his rate of cure was below 20% and I would like to categorically state that your statement is not true as you can verify for yourself. I consider it unfair on your part to distort facts merely to delude visitors to this ABC who may not be able to verify the veracity of your statement.
I cannot resist an afterthought………….
I feel that the Death of Homeopathy which is currently being promoted in the UK and the US and perhaps in Australia by Big Pharma, is largely due to the attitude that you classical homeopaths promote as your therapy does not result in the same rate of cures that the therapy prescribed by Dr Banerji and me, do. The patient is not interested in the methodology used to generate the remedy as any patient wishes to be CURED ASAP.
The hocus-pocus that you classical homeopaths display in treating a patient, starting with the 2 hour long case taking process to elicit that elusive “Single remedy to treat the totality of the Symptoms presented by the patient”, is in my considered opinion the root cause of this “Death of Homeopathy” Syndrome. I believe that it is in your hands to change this attitude and the sooner that you and other classical homeopaths accept this simple fact and take action to do so, the better it will be to allay the general attitude to avoid Homeopathy, as the patient needs to be cured and it is your duty to use whatever means is at your disposal, to do so.
I shall not be surprised if you attack me again as you have done in the past on the basis that my statements are the rantings of an old man who needs to be converted to your own classical homeopathy. I would like to reassure you that they are based on my observations over almost half a Century during which I have witnessed this Death of Homeopathy which has been woven into a mysterious web of intrigue, woven by classical homeopaths on the basis of their studies in colleges, where they are brainwashed into believing that a CURE of an ailment can only occur within the strict classical protocol.
I have proved otherwise in common with Dr Prasanta Banerji who is a qualified Homeopath unlike me, and has shown the guts to defy the tenets of classical homeopathy and use my “This for That” approach to Homeopathic Healing.
It is a matter of interest that Dr Banerji who is reputed to treat 1500 patient on a daily basis in his Homeopathic Hospital and I do not charge any fees to treat patients. I do so purely for the deep satisfaction I derive from healing suffering humanity and especially babies whose mothers occupy my time and attention right now to help them to overcome Baby GERD.
I do wonder if this common bond or attitude has anything to commend it.