Joe De Livera

I am copying a thread on the ABC on Psoriasis which dates back to August 2005.
Many who read this post may not be aware of what Psoriasis is all about and I felt that I should copy it in its entirety on my Website to be a permanent record of what can be considered as treatment for this very difficult condition to resolve.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/35566/

AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis

From shilpasehtiya on 2005-08-21
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hi all,
I am shilpa sehtiya from punjab.i was suffering from psoriasis for 3-4 years. But now it is somehow suppressed. I have taken homeopathy medicines for 1 whole year along with aloevera products from Forever living products.

homeopathic medicines were:
sulphur 30
sepia 30
graphites 200
petroleum 30
Arsenic album 30
all these one dose a day

and silicea 1M once a week

along with that i have taken aloevera gel
and aloe propolis cream from forever living products.

at present i have not got any prominent marks of psoriasis.

but as now with changing weather i am again getting the symptoms of this disease.

I drop this detail here so that i can help someone.
and also I want some suggestions to stop my growing disease.

shilpa
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Joe De Livera on 2005-08-22
Which of the remedies you listed above are you taking today ?
Which remedy did you discover was the most effective ?

I would suggest that you use Arnica 6c in the Split Dose made up as follows:
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from your nearest supermarket.
Pour out 100ml
Drop in 3 pellets or 1 drop of liquid Arnica 6c into the 400ml water
Cap the bottle tightly and succuss it 4-6 times by banging on your palm and look out for the air bubbles to fizzle up from the bottom.
Pour out 1 teaspoonful of the potentized remedy into half a cup of pure water and stir it gently.
Sip just 1 teaspoonful of the water from the cup twice daily.

Please note that the water in the cup should be used almost immediately as it seems to lose its effectiveness if kept over.

Please report any response in your Psoriasis either positive or negative after you have taken the Arnica 6c for a week.

Stop all other remedies that you are now taking if you use the Arnica 6c.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Minsa on 2005-08-22
I have asked patients with Psoriasis to use aloe gel – not the bottled stuff, but gel from the plant. It makes a tremendous difference. Aloe is one of the wonder plants and has such positive effects on the skin – I wish everyone would grow the plant and use as ness – wonderful for burns too. Eating a small piece of aloe for a week at a time is good too- however, it should be ‘peeled’, since the outer grren bit will cause diarrhoea (I am interested, though, in knowing a) if, used homeopathically, it’d cure diarhoea b)the action on a constipated person. It’d have to be taken in tiny bits tho – the green bit for diarrhoea, I mean. Far as the gel goes, about a half inch square is enough to start with, going upto an inch square.
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to: minsa From Joe De Livera on 2005-08-22
I have observed that a patient who was suffering from Psoriasis all over his body was helped with Arnica 6c Split Dose. I cannot state that he is completely cured but he does feel far more comfortable with the Arnica than ever before. His lesions are less defined and the itchiness is gone and it is possible that he will be cured in a few months.

I do hope that shilpashetiya can also benefit from this treatment.

I had tried the Arnica 6c dry dose but this did not help the patient who responded within a week to the Split Dose which I must confess is mind boggling in its effectiveness. I cannot rationally work out how when the dry dose does not work or may even cause aggravation, the Split Dose works like magic.

This is the thrill of Homeopathy.

A question for you.

Have you cured any cases of Psoriasis and if so what are the remedies you used ?
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From shilpasehtiya on 2005-08-22
dear joe and minsa
thanx for replying.
i want to state that i am not a homeopath practitioner. i am just a patient of psoriasis. At present only 0.01% of my body is affected by psoriasis. only my elbows and scalp. otherwise i have some marks on whole body but no any leisons. I just want to get rid of these ugly elbows.

and dear joe, the way u have explained about the medicine, i am unable to understand. first tell me what is spring water and then how to succuss.
Is this medicine ok for such a low percent of disease? Are you a doctor? please give details.
actually i dont want to take risk somehow.

thank you.
shilpa…..
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To: Shilpasehtiya From Joe De Livera on 2005-08-22
My last post was not addressed to you. I had adddressed it to Minsa.

Spring water is the drinking water that you can buy from any supermarket. Check the small print to verify if the water is sourced from underground springs.

I am not a doctor as are most who term themselves as such when they get a diploma in Homeopathy. I have however about 30 years of close study of Homeopathy and 20 years of active involvement in helping others.

You do not have to risk your life by using Arnica 6c that I prescribed although many people that used it reported very positive results.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From walkin on 2005-08-22
The worst case pf Psoriasis I ever treated , had to stand on a sheet when she undressed to catch the scales that dropped off her skin .

It took two years to clear it and I used only high potencies of nosodes.
Did not touch Arnica.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Minsa on 2005-08-23
Sulphur, Psorinum, Thuja, Petroleum – not all together or all on the same patient, but depending on the person’s symptoms and traits.
Joe, I would be worried if anything I gave for a long-term problem caused the problem to vanish or ameliorate too quickly – may seem contradictory, but I believe in removing from root, not pushing in.
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To: Minsa From Joe De Livera on 2005-08-23
I too have used Sulphur, Psorinum, Ars Alb with some degree of success for Psoriasis patients. None of these remedies seemed to show signs of helping to ameliorate the lesions after a few weeks use, but with the addition of my favourite remedy Arnica 30c Split Dose, there was a perceptible amelioration of the patient’s condition.

It is reported that the possible cause of Psoriasis may be due to the absorption of some part of the food which is normally not absorbed and is sent out to the colon, being absorbed into the body. I prescribed Nat Phos 6x on the basis that it would help to accelerate the passage of food through the gut thereby reducing the possibility of full absorption of the elements in the food that may have been the cause of the Psoriasis. I cannot state that it worked but it certainly helped. I would like others too who read this post to please experiment with Nat Phos 6x, Arnica 30c in addition to other remedies for Psoriasis and record their findings.

I agree with you that in the case of a long term ailment like Psoriasis it would not be wise to stop the problem immediately but this does not happen with Psoriasis which is usually treated with Corticosteroids and other dangerous drugs which usually make a bad situation infinitely worse.

However an interesting case of cure to follow up your point is that of my curing many Asthma patients who had been using inhalers sometimes 2 types twice daily (4 puffs). I have been able to ‘cure’ them in a few weeks and they are all off their puffs. Those who were mild were surprised to discover that their problem did not recur after a week but others who were chronic had to use the remedy Nat Sulph 6c Split dose for a few months.

None of these cases showed any problem with Eczemawhich is supposed to follow if this condition is treated successfully and ‘cured’ suddenly.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Minsa on 2005-08-24
Yeah, maybe its worth a try – anything that can help anyone is worth a try. May I make a suggestion to you, Joe? Start documenting your cases – as in keep records of history, prescriptions, and LONG-TERM follow-up. That will increase the value of your suggestions tremendously – you will have an answer to the commonest concern to quick-fix solutions. And, if any problems come out over a period of time, you can use these as a learning experience. I hope you will take this in the spirit its meant.
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to: minsa From Joe De Livera on 2005-08-24
I already have a list of ailments that I have prescribed Arnica for which I have recorded in Excel format and I have recently posted this list on 2 Forums. I believe I entitled it " The varied uses of Arnica”

I am simply amazed that this remedy which I consider a Miracle Remedy can can be used for so many varied uses ranging from a chronic Headache to ED. The thrill is when other remedies have failed and Arnica delivers the goods.

I hope others like you will also use it experimentally whenever you are not sure of which remedy to prescribe. This was the case with my first patient with ED and as I stated at that time, he was all smiles on the morning after.

I believe that it is important that those of us who are dedicated to helping anyone in distress who seek homeopathic assistance should do so freely and what is more important is that we should share our ‘discoveries’ in the use of remedies with each other on forums such as this and otherhealth.com so that this precious science may progress with new ideas instead of remaining the private preserve of the so called ‘classical’ homeopaths from whom I attracted so much flak in the recent past.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Minsa on 2005-08-25
Yes,I’m aware of that, Joe – what I am suggesting is to keep individual histories and records of patients, and insist that they continue to give you feedback over a long period of time(we all know how difficult that is) – and I mean LONG term. That will provide a more detailed pattern for you and all who are willing to follow your suggestions. I would definitely try your suggestion of Arnica for, say, a sleeping problem, but I feel no remedy should be used constantly – or be required to be used constantly – but that’s only my opinion. One more thing – you will find that Arnica 200 1M will ALSO promote sleep (I have seen this in patients who take it for injuries/ physical trauma) – and probably other potencies as well. Of course this is just for info – I realise you can’t suggest high potency use every day. Similarly, except for a few remedies that have contrary action in high or low potency,most remedies can be used in potencies other than the ideal (to the practitioner, anyway) – by adjusting the frequency of dosage. IMO, better to use whatever you have, even a close remdy than none, unless its no great hardship – in which case, why take a remedy at all?
Sorry – rambled on too much!
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To Minsa Re using Arnica daily From Joe De Livera on 2005-08-25
The ideal would be for everyone who uses a remedy prescribed on the forum to have the courtesy of noting the response good or bad on the forum after using the remedy prescribed for a few days.

Unfortunately this is very rarely done by the majority of patients and I am quite used to this lack of response which I interpret to be positive and that the patient was helped by the remedy. This is human nature for you but it would be nice if people who post their ailments on this forum remember that we who like to help them with our experience in the use of Homeopathic remedies would also like to have their feedback as it is through this learning process that we too know that any given remedy has helped.

I note that you do not recommend the use of any remedy on a daily basis. This is precisely the theory that I too was lead to believe as the ‘truth’ but it is only after taking Arnica nightly for almost 10 years that I have come to the conclusion that this is perhaps the only remedy that can be used in this manner. The proof of its efficacy can be seen if you see my photograph as people who meet me cannot believe that I am 76 years old. If you will please give me your email address, I can send it to you.

I have carried out tests by stopping this remedy some months ago and discovered that after about a week off the Arnica, I was beginning to feel not quite as vibrantly live and by the end of the third week, I was getting aches and pains in my body and was not feeling like doing my daily 45 minute walk in the park opposite my residence in Colombo. My BP also increased from 120/80 10mm upwards. I then stopped my experiment and started back on the Arnica and in a week was back to square one.

As I said before, I feel that Arnica is indeed the one remedy that can be considered a Miracle remedy which can be used daily.
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ica daily From Joe De Livera on 2005-08-25
The ideal would be for everyone who uses a remedy prescribed on the forum to have the courtesy of noting the response good or bad on the forum after using the remedy prescribed for a few days.

Unfortunately this is very rarely done by the majority of patients and I am quite used to this lack of response which I interpret to be positive and that the patient was helped by the remedy. This is human nature for you but it would be nice if people who post their ailments on this forum remember that we who like to help them with our experience in the use of Homeopathic remedies would also like to have their feedback as it is through this learning process that we too know that any given remedy has helped.

I note that you do not recommend the use of any remedy on a daily basis. This is precisely the theory that I too was lead to believe as the ‘truth’ but it is only after taking Arnica nightly for almost 10 years that I have come to the conclusion that this is perhaps the only remedy that can be used in this manner. The proof of its efficacy can be seen if you see my photograph as people who meet me cannot believe that I am 76 years old. If you will please give me your email address, I can send it to you.

I have carried out tests by stopping this remedy some months ago and discovered that after about a week off the Arnica, I was beginning to feel not quite as vibrantly live and by the end of the third week, I was getting aches and pains in my body and was not feeling like doing my daily 45 minute walk in the park opposite my residence in Colombo. My BP also increased from 120/80 10mm upwards. I then stopped my experiment and started back on the Arnica and in a week was back to square one.

As I said before, I feel that Arnica is indeed the one remedy that can be considered a Miracle remedy which can be used daily.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Minsa on 2005-08-26
Joe, just mailed you.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From evenmart on 2005-09-12
I was going thru the forum. I am a psoriasis suffere since 15 yrs. I’ve tried homepathy but since I was in uae where homepopathy was not permiited I could n’t get a better follow up and stopped. Aloe vera I have tried and has not helped much.

Now the lesions are very extensive all over the body and was seen by a homeopath 3 days back and started with ars. album fior one week. Then he decides what to give later. What are the food restrictions while having homeo medicines can someone help?
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Joe De Livera on 2005-09-12
Psoriasis is a difficult ailment to be cured even with Homeopathy.

I am glad that you have seen a Homeopaht in your city and it is best that you count on his expertise to cure you.

The only restrictions are Coffee, Cola drinks and preserved meats containing saltpeter all of which antidote the remedy.

Please record your progress on this forum with details of the treatment.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From evenmart on 2005-09-17
Joe, Thank u
what is best emollient I can use, (Olive oil, vaseline, petroleun gelly … ????)
I have severe itching.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Joe De Livera on 2005-09-17
I do not think that any of the emollients that you listed can help.

I would like you to use Arnica 30c in the wet dose in the manner that I have detailed above and use it twice daily and report your response in a week.

There is a possibility that it can help as I have used it often to help chronic cases of Eczema which although it is different can also help Psoriasis.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From evenmart on 2005-09-17
can I take arnica with other medication,as i told i am on ars. album.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Joe De Livera on 2005-09-17
I note that you are on a week’s course of Ars A. Suggest you keep on this therapy and use the Arnica next week in the wet dose.

In the case of Psoriasis there is no specific remedy for this ailment. You have stated that you have suffered from it from age 15 but did not state how old you are now. Also we do not know if you are M or F.

Homeopathy has cured many cases but each person is distinctly different from another and in most cases it is a case of experimenting with remedies which have been known to help the ailment.

You must be patient and we will all try to help you to overcome it.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From evenmart on 2005-09-18
I’m 39 yr old female, indian, and have psoriasis since 15 yrs, Obese. Also it started after coming to Abu Dhabi, where I have to adopt a very diffierent life style from which I was brought up. lesions are very extensive, both in body and scalp and most of the time handful of scales can be taken while changing dress.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From evenmart on 2005-09-20
I have taken a course of injection enbrel,TN alpha antagonist and help a lot to clear the lesions, will it be ok if can take those inj. with the homeo medicines. this is because of the suffering
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Joe De Livera on 2005-09-20
I am indeed concerned at the suffering you are now undergoing but I feel that it may also be in some way due to the medication including injections that you are now using. I doubt very much that these injections can be of any assistanct to you as you would no doubt have realized by now. Psoriasis cannot be treated with drugs including steroids and at best they can only help with a temporary reduction of the severity of your ailment which invariably recurs with increasing discomfort when you are compelled to stop them.

I do not state that I can cure your condition but there are many who have successfully cured this ailment and if you are prepared to use remedies that I and other can suggest we can start whenever you are ready to stop all other drugs, injections and remedies that you are now using. Homeopathic remedies will only help when used alone and you are only wasting your time using them with the injections that you are now undergoing.

When you are ready to start again please contact us.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From evenmart on 2005-09-20
Thank u for the concern. I think I did not mention clearly. I took those injections (ENBREL) in May-June period. 28 doses only. Since it is expensive, ($300/each) I could not continue. Then in July the lesions started appearing and since two weeks it is very extensive.

I started homeo med. only on 9 Sept. 05. and I am not on any other medicines. and my problem is my homeopath is a visitor to this part and not available always. Now he left two days back will come only in Nov. Also he asked to stop ars. alb and gave some high potency med, as he said and it is not named. so I do not know what it is.I will try to get the neame from him.
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to joe– From nupur on 2006-04-21
Hello Joe—

U r really a very humble person to share ur precious knowledge.

Dear Joe–I have one patient of mine–who is suffering from erythodermic psoriasis. He is having redness, visible flaking and only on the exposed areas–like face, hands and legs. He is not having much of itching.He was given Nat Mur 200 2 dose by our Sir– which gave him a very temporrary relief.
Now he is on biochemic kali-phos 6x bd. He is a very nice gentleman who rarely complains although he is still the same. I want to help him–with his condition for which i need ur expertise.

regards.
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to joe– From nupur on 2006-04-21
Hello Joe—

U r really a very humble person to share ur precious knowledge.

Dear Joe–I have one patient of mine–who is suffering from erythodermic psoriasis. He is having redness, visible flaking and only on the exposed areas–like face, hands and legs. He is not having much of itching.He was given Nat Mur 200 2 dose by our Sir– which gave him a very temporrary relief.
Now he is on biochemic kali-phos 6x bd. He is a very nice gentleman who rarely complains although he is still the same. I want to help him–with his condition for which i need ur expertise.

regards.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From justmebyanyname on 2006-04-21
Hey there… Your topic line just caught my eye. Looks like the experts have probably taken care of you, but just thought I would mention that on another forum someone mentioned using ‘honey water’ (3 parts water with 1 part honey) for rinsing hands to cure a skin disease. Figure it couldn’t hurt you and might help. Good Luck!
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Joe De Livera on 2006-04-22
To Nupur,

After he has finished with his course of the remedies he is now taking, I would suggest the use of Arnica 30 (wet dose) dose 1 teaspoonful bd, and Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets bd.

As you no doubt are aware, the treatment of Psoriasis is extremely difficult and I doubt that it can ever be cured. It can only be controlled without the steroids used in medicine and the Homeopathic remedies used can never cause any side effects.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From walkin on 2006-04-23
Sorry Joe , have to disagree .
Psoriasis CAN be cured homeopathically.
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Psoriasis can be cured. From Joe De Livera on 2006-05-04
I would like to share another discovery that I have made with members about curing Psoriasis which as everyone knows is extremely difficult.

I had used the whole gamut of remedies listed on this thread and the patient would react for a time positively when his lesions would be eased but they would return again and another remedy would be used with the roughly the same result.

I was aware that Psoriasis was caused by some imbalance in the gut which absorbed some constituent of the food that was harmful to the body, specifically the skin, and while Arnica and Sulphur and Aloe and other remedies were effective for a time they could not cure the problem.

It occurred to me that a change of diet could be the key to a cure and I persuaded my patient to go on a strict vegetarian diet which completely excluded all food like meat, fish, milk alcohol etc.

I am delighted to record that the Psoriasis vanished within about 2 months.

The patient in now on Arnica 6c in the wet dose (not split) taken twice daily and Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after meals and is exclusively on a strict vegetarian diet which I believe was the secret to his cure. He feels that this is a small price to pay to be rid of his Psoriasis which he had suffered for the last 30 years of his life. He has lost about 5kg in weight and looks very fit. His skin is smooth and there are no lesions visible and he does not have that constant itch.

I would recommend this therapy to others who may read this post as a strict vegetarian diet is not really difficult to observe and is the key remedy to alleviate the suffering caused by Psoriasis.

I would invite anyone who uses this therapy to please report their response on this forum.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From shiva_dba on 2006-05-30
Hi Shilpa… Nice to hear from you. Thanks a lot. I got boost up my confidence. I m suffering from 12 years. But i dont know how to use the medicine stated above. Could you please mail me how to use them individually? I m presently working as an Oralce DBA for an MNC. Age 26. Height 5.4′. I joined this group to marry a psoriatic gal from India so that we can share our feelings well rather than normal people. No one can assure that the normal people will accept them at every point of life. If at all the normal person insults us, we cant digest that. Thats the reason for marrying a Psoriatic gal. Its ok, I fedup with all the medicines. But nothing could result the permanant cure. Its ok, Please mail me. I wait for ur suggestion.

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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From eroys on 2006-08-09
I tried to source Arnica 6c in New Delhi, India to try out the Split Dose method for my Psoriasis problem — but no luck. Nobody has heard of Arnica 6c. They keep asking if I meant Arnica 6x.

Any solutions?
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From Joe De Livera on 2006-08-09
I am indeed very surprised to learn that Arnica 6c is not available in New Delhi. It is possible that you did not check with a few Homeopathic Pharmacies for it and you will find it. The 6x may not be a sufficiently high potency to help with Psoriasis.

As I have stated above, if you wish to get positive results, change your diet to vegan and see the results in a few weeks.

You can supplement this diet with Arnica 6c in the wet dose taken twice daily as it will also help but it is the complete change in your diet that will help.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From eroys on 2006-08-09
Hi Joe. Multi thanks for this.

Will definitely do as you say.

Is there an equivalent in x potency for Arnica 6c in this case which I can readily procure in Delhi?

I have been suffering from Psoriasis on the skin, scalp and nails for the last 3 years and have been taking arseniciodatum with limited success.

I am at a stage now where I do not have any scales on the skin, just postules which bleed when scratched and severe itching when i change clothes.

I am praying that your split dose method will help me get some relief.
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Re: AloeVera is also an alternative for psoriasis From sbdas on 2016-01-13
Psoriasis of Elbows take on alternate weekly one dose of MEDORRHINUM 200 and SYPHILINUM 200.
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