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Debate on the ABC Homeopathy Forum on “Joepathy” July 22 2014

Tuesday, July 22nd, 2014

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/438284/1

To Fitness

I happened to read your statement in your post above:
“A particular person is promoting Nat-Phos as THE remedy for curing GERD by selectively quoting parents benefiting from his Nat-Phos protocol.”

As I am the person to whom you refer, I wish to dispel the doubts that you seek to propagate of my therapy aka “Joepathy” which helps Baby GERD usually in under 6 hours or 2 feeds and CURES it in under 3 days in direct comparison to your classical therapy which can take up to 2 weeks to do so. In the meanwhile the poor suffering baby and the parents continue to spend anxious days and nights wondering when the agony of the reflux of the milk will finally end. In some cases these mothers have consulted me and discovered the miracle of Joepathy which CURES their problem overnight.

I would like to add that I treat all patients free of charge and in Sri Lanka where I live, I also provide the Homeopathic remedy free of charge.

You stated:
“THE NAT-PHOS MISINFORMATION
Homeopathy works on “individualization” i.e. the remedy for GERD which will work on one child may not work on another. There are several remedies for GERD. A particular person is promoting Nat-Phos as THE remedy for curing GERD by selectively quoting parents benefiting from his Nat-Phos protocol. This is not only incorrect but totally against the principles of “individualization” in homeopathy. I am sure desperate parents would do anything to get the cure but blindly going for Nat-Phos is not the route as many have found the hard way. It’s a case of common sense & statistics. If you give Nat-Phos to 100 kids for GERD, some are bound to improve, it doesn’t mean that it’s THE remedy for GERD. Next time someone touts Nat-Phos as the remedy for GERD ask him the statistics first. ”

I do not subscribe to your ‘classical’ theory that a cure of an ailment is only possible by ‘individualization’ in Homeopathy. You may perhaps be aware that I am 85 years of age and am the most senior Homeopath to be actively involved in helping suffering humanity in the whole world. I do so purely for the deep satisfaction I derive in so doing at my advanced age, if only to disprove types like you and a few others who take umbrage at my Joepathy perhaps prompted by jealousy, of the success that attends the CURES of the many ailments and diseases as confirmed by the patients themselves on my website:

www.joedelivera.com

I do not think that you are aware that I am not the only Homeopath to use my “This for That” therapy in treating patients as Dr Prasanta Banerji, a qualified Homeopath who treats over 1500 patients daily free of charge like me, in his own:

PRASANTA BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION

http://www.pbhrfindia.org/

states:

“The Banerji Protocol is a new method of treatment using homeopathic medicines. Specific medicines are prescribed for specific diseases. Diseases are diagnosed using modern/state of the art methods. This is done because modern diagnostic approaches incorporate and help in the selection of medicines so that specific medicines could be easily prescribed for specific diseases. This is not practiced in classical homeopathy.

The concept of specific homeopathic medicine for a disease based on symptoms was first perceived and practiced by Late Dr. Pareshnath Banerji. With the passage of time and the availability of new diagnostic tools like Ultrasonography, MRIs, c-ancer markers and other advanced tests, we were able to further streamline the treatment protocols accurately. The efficiency of this streamlining is reflected by the encouraging results of The Banerji Protocol.

In The Banerji Protocol of treatment, mixtures of remedies or frequent repetitions of the remedies are used when required. This is not practiced in classical homeopathy. The combination of two potentized medicines, we use, are made in a meaningful way based on years of clinical experiments and observations by us. They are mixed for special advantages in treatment, so that the aggravation due to drugs can be checked, side effects of the medicines can be abated, quick and uneventful recovery can be ensured in a much shorter time.

Specific homeopathic medicines are also used for supportive care. Homeopathic medicines prescribed on constitutional grounds may play a useful role in supportive and palliative for patients with malignant disease.”

You have also stated:
” Next time someone touts Nat-Phos as the remedy for GERD ask him the statistics first. ”

You are invited to visit my website to read the statistics of grateful mothers on:

Home


and

Home

You may like to know that I have weathered many years of criticism on the ABC and 3 other Homeopathic Forums successfully and
emerged with flying colours purely on the basis of the same statistics that you demanded which are all available for you to study and hopefully accept on the basis of the patients own confirmation of their cures which some considered as “Miraculous”.

For the record I shall copy my default therapy for Baby GERD which I have prescribed for hundreds of babies below. I am proud to state that the rate of success of using my Joepathy is over 95% as can be proved by an analysis of the statements by parents on my website all of which are not included in the 2 links above.

The remedy that has proved to be very effective for Baby GERD is:

Nat Phos 6x tablet dissolved in milk given immediately after a feed. Start with half tablet but if the response is not as expected, you may increase to a full tablet but you will not exceed 6 tablets in 24 hours.

You may like to try to reduce the quantity of milk you give for each feed to enable baby’s digestion to stabilize. You will however feed more often. It is essential that you burp baby immediately after each feed.

You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.

It is best not to vaccinate Baby till s/he is over a year old as the after effects in some cases can add to the problems with GERD.
Do not give Baby any solid food till s/he is over 8 months of age.

You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that Nat Phos 6x will help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.
Report progress in 24 hours and as often as you wish on this thread.

If you discover that baby does not respond to the Nat Phos 6x alone and this has occurred in a few cases, you will contact me again and I shall then prescribe another remedy to reinforce the action of Nat Phos 6x.

I would like to add in conclusion that it is rarely that I have to waste my time in defending my Joepathy but I felt that I should do so here on this thread to dispel the misinformation that you seek to spread of
my Joepathy which CURES the ailments of suffering humanity free of charge.

Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From miriams on 2014-07-20
Hi Fitness

Thank you for the reply. I will certainly try this remedy. I need to order it I should be able to start it on Tues.

Can I ask you: –

1) Is the remedy you suggested a different one from the tissue salt calc phos ( I think the full name is calcium phosphate)

2) do I stop giving Zantac while I try this remedy. I have stopped Zantac before while trying remedies and it was always stressful, as Zantac does give some relief to my daughter. If you say to stop then I will follow your lead.

Thanks again
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From miriams on 2014-07-20
To Joe,

I have tried your protocol, i.e. nat phos for my daughter ( hylands brand) and nat phos for me and I was taking arnica twice daily but it did not resolve my daughter’s condition. I did this for about 5 days. I stopped as it was not working and started by daughter on zantac, which I hate but I have 3 other small children to consider.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Miriams,

Its the potentized form, not the tissue salt. These work totally differently.

You have to stop Zantac while using the remedy or you will never know what is working.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Joe,

I don’t doubt your sincerity, its your competence that I am questioning.

You can use remedies any way you like, please don’t call it homeopathy as I am sure you know how homeopathy works only on three basic principles.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-21
To Fitness

I can see that you have not read and UNDERSTOOD the impact of my last post addressed to you as you would not otherwise have questioned my ‘competence’ to help patients who consult me, both here on the ABC and on my Website.

I have already stated in my last post that I did originally use the same methodology that you and other classical homeopaths use to elicit the symptoms and treat them with that elusive single remedy in accordance with your studies in college. I realized that this resulted in a waste of time which left the patient suffering from his/her ailment while I (or you) followed the protocol dictated by the tenets of classical homeopathy which I rejected, in common with Dr P Banerji many years ago, as the therapy I prescribed just did NOT work.

You must accept in principle that a patient consults a physician to treat the ailment presented and is not interested in the methodology used to do so by the doctor. The patient expects to be CURED asap and this is very relevant from the standpoint of anxious mothers who present their babies with GERD and expect to have them cured ASAP which unfortunately does not occur in your case in common with many other classical homeopaths who are consulted on the ABC and other Homeopathic Forums.

I did not attend any Homeopathic College as Homeopathy is only a Hobby to me to which I am dedicated. I do treat a few selected patients by appointment and you will perhaps understand the reason why I choose to do so, as I prefer to treat difficult cases like Robert Ray whom I CURED of the after effect of 3 strokes he had suffered in 2002 shortly after he consulted me on the ABC in 2002.

Robert Ray was CURED from the after effects of 3 Strokes he suffered from 2002 to 2010

This is another reason for my establishing my own Website to enable anyone in distress, anywhere in the world to consult me and you can read the many accounts of CURES, I have achieved as confirmed by the patients themselves. I repeat again that I do so free of charge unlike you and others who do charge for advice on your own websites.
You stated:
“You can use remedies any way you like, please don’t call it homeopathy as I am sure you know how homeopathy works only on three basic principles.”

I repeat again that I do not prescribe on the basis of classical homeopathy as my therapy has been dubbed “JOEPATHY” by a coterie of classical homeopaths who were in the
habit of challenging every post I made over 5 years ago on 3 Homeopathic Forums which made me establish my own Website which I presume you have visited as requested by me. I am proud to state that I practice “JOEPATHY” and am surprised that this term attracts over 2000 hits on Google.

I would like to copy a page listed on Google from the Homeopathy and More website I founded in 2006 with a friend Praveen Wadhwa who is a Computer Engineer by profession and like me was not qualified in Homeopathy but was dedicated to this Science. He wrote the software for this Website but has sadly not been active on it for the last 4 years.

Joepathy – My Reaction
By: msrao
October 29 2008
Dear Sir,
This is the first time I am coming across the term ‘Joepathy’.Perhaps this is due to my inadequate exposure to the outside world or may be indifference.In fact as soon as I came to know the existence of such a web (through you) I logged into it with some excitement. While doing so I trespassed in to neighboring websites as well!To say the least I was shocked to see the vituperative language used by your detractors. While I am not competent to go into the merits of the dispute I cannot help myself from expressing my opinion on this vexed issue. My knowledge of homeopathy is rudimentary which I picked up from my frequent visits to homeopathic stores and desultory reading of some elementary books on the subject. But as a layman I think I am entitled to express my views on the subject.

As I understand the whole problem revolves around specific medicine for a particular ailment as against the totality of symptoms advocated by the classical homeopaths. When I visit any homeopathic stores, I find that some of the internationally renowned firms dishing out medicines for specific ailments containing combination of a number of homeopathic medicines, whereas the method followed by you , is at least, a single remedy at a time (as I understand). Is it not more ‘criminal’ than the method followed by you?

Your plea is that you have found a particular medicine(drug)cures more diseases than mentioned in the conventional materia medica (by dint of your experience)and as such to be included in the materia medica, of course after proper investigation.

If a drug or medicine happens to be panacea for a host of ailments, then, what is wrong in prescribing that medicine and sharing the knowledge with others?

I have seen a number of homeopaths (classical or otherwise) prescribing one medicine for the morning and another for evening. Does it not go against the grain of pure homeopathic principles? Slowly and irrevocably we are slipping into combination theory, in a novel way, whether we admit it or not.

Your suggestion that the provings should be carried forward and not content ourselves with already known is noteworthy. This calls for an open mind on the part of medical fraternity.

I would request you to ignore the diatribe and continue to serve the humanity. At one stage you expressed your anguish that you were spending more time in defending yourself than attending to the needs of patients. It is a pity!

I think I have understood the case and my remarks make sense.

Long live Joe the maverick!

With regards,
M.S.Rao

Re: Joepathy – My Reaction
By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
October 29 2008
I was delighted to read your post which made me realize that many people who have read my posts on the Homeopathic Forums I used to visit daily in the past, have finally realized that the therapy I have tried to promote for the last 5 years on various Homeopathic forums is based on the “this for that” therapy aka “Joepathy”. I did so as I discovered that it was far more effective than the stereotype classical method that some classically trained homeopaths use. Please note that this term Joepathy owes its origin to the same classical homeopathic fraternity and I often feel that in coining this term which they originally used in a derisive sense, they unwittingly honoured me as this term Jeopathy is now internationally accepted to describe the direct allopathic form of therapy that I use. Google picked it up some time ago and lists some of my more interesting cases numbering over 120.

I have persisted in using Joepathy to help my patients as I have invariably found that the elusive single remedy that the learned classical homeopath finally prescribes, according to the rules, for the totality of the symptoms that a patient presents from the top of his head does not usually work. As a result the patient is sent home in greater distress than when he consulted the homeopath who charges a handsome fee for each consultation. In my case as I presume that you are aware, I do not levy any charge for my services as I am not a professional qualified homeopath. To me Homeopathy is only a hobby which I practice in my free time as it gives me a deep sense of satisfaction to heal anyone who consults me which many do after they have visited doctors, ayurvedic physicians and classical homeopaths. They consult me as a last resort and are agreeably surprised to discover that their ailment from which they had suffered sometimes for years is history, often overnight.

It is the criticism of my therapy that irked me resulting in my spending more time in defending Joepathy. I have always maintained that it is the patient who comes first and not the method used, classical or Joepathy that matters. I cannot understand the reason why I have been subjected to this constant criticism as the proof of the pudding is there in all the forums for anyone to read and the number of grateful patients who have testified to have been cured is too numerous to be counted.

I would like you to please visit the link below and read the discussion that ensued some years ago on another forum where I have spelt out in detail the reason for my preferring my own Joepathy over the classical method and I shall be interested to have your response to this post. I believe that comments from those who are interested in using the Joepathy form of therapy can help to advance the progress of Homeopathy.

http://www.otherhealth.com/homeopathy-discussion/6576-all-ho…

Re:Joepathy – My Reaction
By: msrao
October 31 2008
Dear Sir,
I have gone through the website suggested by you and other related websites.What I gather is ….the members have taken umbrage at your using the forum for propagating your brand of “pathy”.It is understandable.But it is sad to see that the discussion has degenerated into downright abuse.
The learned members are of the view that it is unethical and sometimes dangerous to prescribe medicines solely on the basis of a few physical symptoms without taking into account the totality of symptoms.This is perfectly in line with the basic principles of homeopathy.But this is an ideal situation.However the present day life demands a little flexibility.
What baffles me is that even veterans like Nash say that a peculiar physical symptom clinches the selection of the remedy irrespective of the nature of the disease.I am also of the opinion that taking the case in an elaborate manner is a luxury which we can ill afford,when a simpler but effective method can be adopted.That is what exactly Mr.Joe is trying to do.I am not suggesting that homeopathic principles as propounded by the founder should be thrown to winds.We should strive to follow it where ever possible ,but mulishly adhering to it in the face of fast changing lifestyle is not going to advance the cause of homeopathy nor will help the public.The array of homeopathic medicines and the radical literature available in the market is a witness to the silent revolution that is taking place.I have seen many a successful practitioners adopting a slightly different approach.Painting Mr.Joe as some one with sinister motives is most uncalled for.
Let me recant my recent experience.Two months ago I traveled from Detroit to LasVegas (4hrsflight).A few hours after landing I got excruciating pain in the lower legs.I attributed it to arthritis the most common ailment of advancing years .As I was almost “crippled”I took a pain killer to tide over the crisis.But I felt that the root cause lay elsewhere.I felt that this was something to do with poor circulation of blood in the lower legs.(as I had read and seen on TV).I had also read that Ferrum Phos and Arnica would be useful in such cases.I took these and in a few days I was relieved of the pain and it has not returned since.I did not take any mental symptoms in to account.Q uackery at its best!I crave the indulgence of the members.I do not pretend to educate the members nor is my intention that others should follow suit.I understand that this occurs when the heart becomes “inefficient”and these medicines tone up the muscles.
The ultimate aim of any system is to give relief if not complete cure.If any medicine is helpful in this pursuit it is most welcome,call it by any name.
I abhor to call ‘joepathy’ as a separate system.The same homeopathic medicines are used except that emphasis is on physical symptoms.What about tissue salts …..the whole philosophy being that deficiency of any one of the twelve salts identified by the founder causes disease,without undue emphasis on mental symptoms.The homeopaths have taken this system under their umbrella!
Let not ‘Joe’ issue be blown out of proportion and my humble request is that his experience should be utilised for the benefit of mankind.
I stand corrected,if I am wrong.
With regards,
MS.Rao.

We Love Mr.Joe in this forum and we have great respect for his contributions to humanity. And in this forum, we go much beyond just “homeopathy”. The term homeopathy might have emerged 200 years ago, but the principle ” Like cures like ” is very very ancient. Infact, many vedic literatures talk in detail about the efficacy of this principle.

We make our own remedies ( from allopathic drugs, ayurvedic, edible nuts, siddha medicines etc) which follow this principle, but the method of preparation, may not follow what is told in Organon 5 , 6 or earlier. But all these self made remedies have worked wonders on many, because there is no violation of the basic principle what nature has laid down for the benefits of humanity. Infact, Arnica for example, has about 4000 listed symptoms in materia medica. And there are another 1000 symptoms that we can add. And this is precisely what Mr.Joe has proved.

Niether the provers are gods, nor the people who recorded the provings are!
Let us accept our knowledge is self-limiting….

Best
Garcot

I am copying a post from my own Website from Jani which arrived yesterday which gives you an insight into the patients response to the standard case taking protocol which left this patient annoyed and wondering what classical homeopathy was all about and whether it is designed to heal or to keep the patient in a state of suspended animation with orders to report progress weekly at the cost of another fee charged by the classical homeopath.

Jani

Submitted on 2014/07/20 at 11:44 AM
I have no doubt they will be convinced sir. (she refers to her 2 daughters)
It is not that they do not trust Joepathy—on the contrary, they are scared of the time (and perhaps the information dug up) by case taking in homeopathy.
One good example : A homeopath diagnosed me as a Platina personality. Personally, I have no issues with any classification but if you read Boerricke you know how terrorizing it can be.
One personality trait for Platina—nymphomania.
I can assure you that as a Hashimoto patient for over 25 years, any interest in that area is anathema for me. people lie about what they feel—-which is why I am citing a medical conditions!
But when you read Boericke, which is easily available online, it can be scary. My homeopath (actually my old one, currently I am under no treatment except Joepathy for eczema) takes the view that a Platina personality means a person able to attract people from the opposite sexes without even making an effort—–but you know it can be scary, if not offensive, if someone were to classify you with nyphomaniacs or call you suicidal when you are not, or at least feel you are not!
Anyway, case taking can also be very time consuming—my daughters hesitate to take that much time out, when they feel their “illnesses” are not that serious.
I wanted them to try, because like you, I am fascinated by what arnica can do—and the wonder why other practitioners are not looking at it more closely. I am your fan, sir, for just that reason.

If, as I hope you have read my post, you may now understand the reason why I persist in using my own therapy, JOEPATHY as I have ample proof that it CURES unlike the Classical Homeopathy that you prescribe, which invariably does not.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Miriams, please continue posting your case updates here. I won’t spoil this post arguing with Joe. I have stated facts, he can continue believing what he does.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Evocationer on 2014-07-21
Fitness there is no point arguing. This same argument has been going on for years, it never changes and Mr De Livra never alters the direction or nature of his argument.

Homoeopathy has enemies of all sorts, and the only way we can genuinely oppose them is to continue and do the good work we do. Actions speak far louder than words.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-22
Fitness

Please note that I did not start any argument on this thread with you as it was you that dared to question the efficacy of my therapy.

I have given you concrete evidence of the efficacy of my therapy which is not based on the 2 hour long case taking procedure which a patient commented on only yesterday, which I copied in my last post.

I presume that you are too full of your own ‘classical’ therapy to accept that there are other more effective ways of curing an ailment even after you have concrete evidence that my “Joepathy” works in some wondrous manner. I consider that I am fortunate that I did not qualify in a Homeopathic college only to get brainwashed into believing like you, that a cure is only possible with classical homeopathy, when the facts are otherwise.

There is no question of “belief” in accepting cold hard facts as confirmed by the patients themselves of having being CURED by my Joepathy.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-22
Evocationer

I have just noticed that you too have joined forces with Fitness in insisting that the ailment a patient presents can only be cured with the same ‘classical’ Homeopathy that you both have studied, as I too did about 40 years ago, perhaps before you were born.

I have in previous debates with you given you comprehensive chapter and verse, quoting from the statements of the patients themselves that it is not only through the use of classical homeopathy, complete with the 2 hour long questionnaire that the elusive ‘Single Remedy’ to treat the totality of the symptoms presented by the patient can be prescribed.

I have already informed you that I too did use this same protocol 40 years ago when I was first fascinated by Homeopathy and studied it in my free time as I was and am involved in another profession but decided to investigate this Science after having been cured of my weekly colds.

After the Tsunami hit Sri Lanka in 2004 I was more involved in Homeopathy as I was approached by Homeopaths Without Borders to pave the way to establish facilities in the areas which were affected and it was then that I met Luc who was instrumental in changing my use of dry pellets into using the Wet dose which term I authored with his assent. We did have many interesting arguments with each other as I had at that time discovered the incredible benefits of Arnica as a general tonic but he refused to be swayed by my discovery and like so many classical homeopaths warned me of the danger of using any remedy on a daily basis.

You may like to read his own account on his experience in Sri Lanka on:
http://www.drluc.com/homepath-srilanka.htm

I am now 85 years of age and I am proud to state that I have disproved the classical concept that predicts the danger of taking Arnica 30c daily and have many followers throughout the world who have followed my example.

Here in Sri Lanka I have about 15 friends who at various times in the past have followed my example and are taking Arnica 30 in the Wet dose nightly. It is remarkable how when we meet, we notice that we all seem to have been excused the ravages of time and the normal signs of the advancing years as at 85 (I will be 86 next October), I have often been mistaken for one 20 years younger as I do not have any wrinkles on my skin although my hair is completely grey. My mind is clear and I do still drive to work daily although I leave office around 3.30 to avoid the heavy traffic in Colombo.

I do not take any allopathic drugs whatever and I believe that this is one reason why I do not present any medical problems today. You may like to visit:
The Pill Popping Culture

Home

and read my thoughts on how drugs can ruin the health of an otherwise healthy person. I must add that I spend an hour almost daily on exercise which I do on my True Prone Exercise Cycle listening to music on my iPad Air.

I do not have any aches or pains in my body whatever and annual blood tests prove that I do not have Diabetes and my Cholesterol and Triglyceride levels are the envy of people who are half my age. This is the report I get from my friends who meet me regularly to have their bottles of water they usually bring with them, to be activated with Arnica 30.

This is no idle report made with the intention of converting you or Fitness about the efficacy of my Joepathy but I am doing so in the hope that both of you, who profess to be classical homeopaths, do desist in criticizing me and my Joepathy in future as I have proved beyond doubt that my therapy works.

I do not criticize your pitiful efforts to prescribe your classically generated therapy to unsuspecting patients whom you treat sometimes for weeks on end prescribing one remedy to be followed by another, with no cure. Some of your patients have presented their cases to me on my website and you can verify for yourself how many have been CURED.

The least that I can expect is that you reciprocate my attitude, to NOT criticize me in your daily visits to this ABC. Many others have done so in the past 12 years on this and other Homeopathic Forums and have either faded away but Gavini Murthy who was one of my most belligerent critics finally stated:

“You must have observed that I am not the die hard classical homeopath any more. I now appreciate that homeopathic medicines are capable of curing even when used in the non classical way. ”

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/231958/

As I have stated in another post to you, Dr Prasanta Banerji has also discovered independent of me, that the same “This for That” therapy I use and prescribe is more effective in comparison to the classical homeopathy he used in the past.

I remember reading your statement that his rate of cure was below 20% and I would like to categorically state that your statement is not true as you can verify for yourself. I consider it unfair on your part to distort facts merely to delude visitors to this ABC who may not be able to verify the veracity of your statement.

I cannot resist an afterthought………….

I feel that the Death of Homeopathy which is currently being promoted in the UK and the US and perhaps in Australia by Big Pharma, is largely due to the attitude that you classical homeopaths promote as your therapy does not result in the same rate of cures that the therapy prescribed by Dr Banerji and me, do. The patient is not interested in the methodology used to generate the remedy as any patient wishes to be CURED ASAP.

The hocus-pocus that you classical homeopaths display in treating a patient, starting with the 2 hour long case taking process to elicit that elusive “Single remedy to treat the totality of the Symptoms presented by the patient”, is in my considered opinion the root cause of this “Death of Homeopathy” Syndrome. I believe that it is in your hands to change this attitude and the sooner that you and other classical homeopaths accept this simple fact and take action to do so, the better it will be to allay the general attitude to avoid Homeopathy, as the patient needs to be cured and it is your duty to use whatever means is at your disposal, to do so.

I shall not be surprised if you attack me again as you have done in the past on the basis that my statements are the rantings of an old man who needs to be converted to your own classical homeopathy. I would like to reassure you that they are based on my observations over almost half a Century during which I have witnessed this Death of Homeopathy which has been woven into a mysterious web of intrigue, woven by classical homeopaths on the basis of their studies in colleges, where they are brainwashed into believing that a CURE of an ailment can only occur within the strict classical protocol.

I have proved otherwise in common with Dr Prasanta Banerji who is a qualified Homeopath unlike me, and has shown the guts to defy the tenets of classical homeopathy and use my “This for That” approach to Homeopathic Healing.

It is a matter of interest that Dr Banerji who is reputed to treat 1500 patient on a daily basis in his Homeopathic Hospital and I do not charge any fees to treat patients. I do so purely for the deep satisfaction I derive from healing suffering humanity and especially babies whose mothers occupy my time and attention right now to help them to overcome Baby GERD.

I do wonder if this common bond or attitude has anything to commend it.

She conceives in just 2 months on my therapy after trying for a year

Wednesday, July 16th, 2014

I am copying the conversation with akbana who suffered from Endometriosis and Chocolate Cysts which I treated for 2 months and she now states:

“We are so glad to let you know that I am pregnant !! We are so excited !! Can’t thank you enough !! We have been trying since last one year and after taking your medicine within 2 months I got pregnant. Can’t express our happiness!! You are GOD to us !!”

• akbana says:
June 6, 2014 at 9:13 PM (Edit)
Dear Sir,

I am 31 yrs old lady married 5 years back. I’ve been trying to conceive since last 1 year and on Feb, 2014 my gynolst found endometriosis with 2 cysts (with internal echoes) of sizes 2.4×1.4cm, 1.7×1.6cm on my left ovary. Doc also told me that I have scar tissues as well. I also have high TSH for which I’m taking thyroid medication(Livothyroxin). My gynecologist referred me to fertility center for further treatment for conceive. I do have severe period pain since age of 13.I do normal ovulation.Nowadays I’m taking pain killer to reduce my period pain. Except my period time, I don’t feel any other problem with my endometriosis.

Please suggest what should I do.

An early help will be highly appreciated.

Thank You,
Amrita

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• Joe says:
June 6, 2014 at 9:59 PM (Edit)
I shall copy my default therapy for Endometriosis and Chololate Cysts below:

Your remedies are:

Bellis Perennis 30c
Arnica 30c
Apis 6c

All remedies to be taken in the Wet dose twice daily leaving about an hour between each.

Bellis Perennis reduces the Chocolate Cysts (CC) that are usually present with Endometriosis and also prevents the spread of the lesions internally.
Apis 6c will help the body to reabsorb the Chocolate coloured fluid which fills them. US Scans taken 3 months into treatment prove that there is no trace of any colour in the fluid. The CC usually reduce about 1cm per month.
Arnica will reduce your pain and the bleeding that many patients suffer from, some on a continuous daily basis.

Please note that this therapy is not an instant fix to your problem and you may have to take it for some time into the future.

Report your response in a week and after your next period.

You will not take any drugs when you start my therapy.

Please follow the instructions below to make the Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy.

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

Do not use Coffee, Cola beverages, preserved foods like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter.

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• akbana says:
June 7, 2014 at 4:07 AM (Edit)
Dear Sir ,
Thank you so much for your help..I have already ordered the medicines. I have one more question , will this medication reduce my scar tissues ??

Thanks & Regard
Amrita

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Select comment akbana
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Submitted on 2014/07/16 at 7:43 PM
Dear Sir,
We are so glad to let you know that I am pregnant !! We are so excited !! Can’t thank you enough !! We have been trying since last one year and after taking your medicine within 2 months I got pregnant. Can’t express our happiness!! You are GOD to us !!

Now should I continue the medicines as I am 2-3weeks pregnant.
Gob bless you .

Thanks & Warm regards
Amrita

Joe says

Submitted on 2014/07/16 at 8:20 PM | In reply to akbana.
I have just read your post and I am delighted to learn that you are pregnant after trying for a year to start a Baby. I would like to congratulate you both and wish you and your Baby all the very best and may God bless all of you and grant you a safe delivery around March 2015.

You must STOP all the medicines that I prescribed for you as your own body will now take over and ensure that there is no Endometriosis and Chocolate Cysts in and around your womb as they will all be absorbed by your body to prepare it to receive your Baby.

I believe that you live in the US near Chicago and I shall look forward to having regular reports of your progress as a Mother to be.

Do not take any drugs whatever, even for a headache and you have my assurance to help you to overcome any ailment that you may have to overcome.

Just in case you wish to contact me you may do so on my email address

joedelivera@nullgmail.com

Warm Regards

How a chronic patient who consulted for Ankylosis and Obesity was diagnosed as a Chronic Asthmatic and was treated and hopefully cured.

Tuesday, July 15th, 2014

How a chronic patient who consulted for Ankylosis and Obesity was diagnosed as a Chronic Asthmatic and was treated and hopefully cured.

saswati says:
April 15, 2014 at 5:02 PM (Edit)
Halo Dr.
I am 35, suffering from Ankylosis & obesity, having severe back .tell me some remedies

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• Joe says:
April 15, 2014 at 5:53 PM (Edit)
“I am 35, suffering from Ankylosis & obesity, having severe back .tell me some remedies”

I cannot understand how you can expect me to even try to help you on the basis of your cryptic post copied above.

If you want me to help you, the least I can expect from you is that you give me full details of your ailment, your weight and your height and for how long you have been affected from your condition.

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• saswati says:
April 19, 2014 at 11:41 AM (Edit)
I am 35. My height is 64 kg. My height is 5 ft &1 inch, suffering from Ankylosis & obesity. Previously I had asthma. By taking ESIFLO 250 inhaler & VENTROLINE inhaler it is controlled.

From 2013 Feb onwards I am suffering from low back pain. Even I could not walk properly & could not sleep. Then I consulted with orthopedic doctor. He asked me to go for HLA B27 test. It found positive & confirmed ankylosis. Then he referred me to hematologist. I was asked to take SAZO 500 thrice daily along with antacid & painkiller by hematologist. He also told that it can affect my kidney & liver. I continued the same medicine for three months then stopped. Then from internet I came to know the power of homeopathy to cure ankylosis.

Now I am having VERTIFINE drops of SBL homeopathy 10-12 drops thrice daily & BAMBUSA A 6 10-12 drops thrice daily. Also I started swimming. 50% pain is decreased. But it started paining while lying down in bed. The back side (mainly the left waist portion) becomes very stiff. While getting down from the bed the pain is there for 6-7 hours severely. A slight pain is always there in left waist & also in left back.

Also my weight suddenly increased. Two years back my weight was 53 kg. Now it is 64 kg. Mainly I am suffering from large belly. Please suggest some medicine for me.
Regards

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• saswati says:
April 19, 2014 at 12:03 PM (Edit)
I forgot to tell my BP. It is 110/80

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• Joe says:
April 19, 2014 at 4:08 PM (Edit)
Reading your post, I believe that the reason for your gaining weight is due to your use of “ESIFLO 250 inhaler & VENTROLINE inhaler”.

You do not seem to be aware that ALL inhalers are based on Steroids which when inhaled directly into the lungs cause many side effects and the most common is weight gain.

I shall start your treatment with a remedy that will CURE your Asthma in a few months depending on how chronic your disease is.

I shall copy my default therapy for Asthma below:

Your remedy is a dose of Nat Sulph 6c in the Wet dose taken twice daily, First dose on an empty stomach and the second just before bed which you will take nightly for 2 weeks, When you find some relief you can reduce your dosage to just ONE dose nightly. If however you do not experience any relief which can happen if you are a chronic Asthmatic, you will please report your status to me for further advice.

You will report your response weekly or more often as may be necessary.

You will not take any drugs when you start my therapy.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done at least 6 times before sipping a capful of the bottle as prescribed.

Steam is also important and it must be inhaled for about 5 minutes twice daily. You can get the steaming device used in beauty saloons for facial treatment. You will most likely cough up a lot of phlegm immediately after steaming.

Physiotherapy is also indicated after steaming to rid the lungs and airways of the phlegm which is also the cause of Asthma. You will lay flat across your bed with your chest slightly elevated above your head which is hanging down over the side. You will get someone to tap your chest on the back from the waist up to your neck and you should find that your phlegm will drool out in cupfuls.

Exercise is essential for you and you will drink at least 3 liters of water daily.

You can also blow into a balloon to help strengthen your lungs.

If you get an acute attack of Asthma which you would normally treat with a Nebulizer you will take Ars Alb 200c in the Wet dose and this will usually bring relief within about 15 minutes or less. In the event of the first dose not working you may take another about an hour later. Please note that the maximum dosage is not to exceed 3 doses in 12 hours. Also note that Ars Alb is NOT for daily use and may only be used on a SOS basis if you discover that you cannot breathe as a result of an Asthmatic Attack.

Do not use Coffee, Cola beverages, preserved foods like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter.

You also stated that you have been prescribed Sazo as an antacid. This is another of the dangerous drugs that doctors prescribe which cause serious side effects and you can Google “SAZO” to read about the dangers of taking it.

Replace it with Nat Phos 6x dose 2-3 tablets after every meal taken thrice daily. You will discover that it is far better and is absolutely safe in use.
Nat Phos 6x will also reduce your weight by 1kg per week.

Your Ankylosis is not a disease that I can treat but you can take
Arg. Met 6c in the Wet dose twice daily and report if this remedy can help you.
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done at least 6 times before sipping a capful of the bottle as prescribed.

Please follow the following restrictions which are essential to ensure that the remedy prescribed is not antidoted:

Do not use Coffee, Cola beverages, preserved foods like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter.

STOP ALL DRUGS YOU ARE TAKING TODAY AND REPLACE THEM WITH MY THERAPY.

Report progress weekly.

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• saswati says:
April 19, 2014 at 4:45 PM (Edit)
Thank you Dr for your suggestion
Regards
Saswati

• Saswati says:
July 15, 2014 at 9:42 AM (Edit)
Halo Dr. I am very sorry for my late reporting.
Thank you very very much Dr. My weight is reduced by 7 kg. now my weight is 57 kg. I am looking much younger now. My Asthma is much controlled.

what are medicine I should follow now?

regards
Saswati

Joe says
July 15 2014

It is precisely 3 months since your first post of April 15 2014 to report your response to my therapy which I shall copy below for the record:
“saswati says:
April 15, 2014 at 5:02 PM (Edit)
Halo Dr.
I am 35, suffering from Ankylosis & obesity, having severe back .tell me some remedies”

I am glad to learn that:
“My weight is reduced by 7 kg. now my weight is 57 kg. I am looking much younger now. My Asthma is much controlled.”

The reduction of your weight is indeed very good news and I am glad that I was able to elicit from you that you were an Asthmatic using various Inhalers to control your Asthma which I had hopefully CURED with my therapy.

You have used the word “controlled” and I would like to know precisely how you are and if you still get any attacks of Asthma like you did before you started on my therapy.

Do you suffer from any Gastric problems after meals, especially dinner when you may feel full or have some burning sensation in your stomach?

I would also like to know if your “Ankylosis” is still a matter of concern. If so please give details.

Posts for July 2014

Wednesday, July 2nd, 2014

HOW AN OLD LADY(78 years) WAS CURED BY JOEPATHY

Monday, June 30th, 2014

I am copying a post from Dr Alice Menshikova, a qualified Homeopath practicing in Moscow, who relates in her own words what can be considered as a Miraculous CURE of a senior patient 78 years of age, who was cured of the aftermath of her Stroke which she suffered from 20 years ago. She was confined to bed for the last 3 years and Dr Alice contacted me some time ago requesting my therapy. I prescribed Arnica 1M in the Wet dose taken thrice daily and was delighted to learn yesterday that the patient was mobile in a week and is now able to walk without support.

HOW AN OLD LADY(78 years) WAS CURED BY JOEPATHY

A month ago I was asked for help . An old lady 78 years old lied without movement last 3 years. 20 years ago she had a stroke and after this she became weaker and weaker. Three years ago she lost the possibility for any activity. The only treatment she had was allopathic – Nootropil- with “zero” effect.
The case with so long history is difficult for treatment and the only thing was to use JOEPATHY.
I prescribed Arnica 1M in wet dose 1 tablespoon in the morning and 1 tablespoon in the evening and asked the family to inform me about any changes.
One week after this family had a great news-only 7 days of taking Arnica 1M passed and the lady received the opportunity to move without any support. After next 7 days she could walk outdoor.
This is a real miracle!!! Her treatment took only 14 days.
JOEPATHY means treatment “this for that” and works greatly!
Alice M. Homeopath from Moscow (Russia)

Posts for June 2014

Thursday, June 5th, 2014

13 month old boy CURED of Baby GERD in less than 2 weeks.

Tuesday, May 20th, 2014

I am copying a statement by the mother of a 13 month old boy who seems to have been cured of his Baby GERD in less than 2 weeks after many months of suffering from GERD which was treated with Prevacid and Zantac, both of which seemed effective for a few days but made the condition even worse, immediately after.

I am sharing this post with mothers who may have babies suffering from GERD who are desperate for a cure. It is my hope that other advisors on this Forum will consider replacing the classical remedies they were taught to use in college with Nat Phos 6x which as many are aware, is a Biochemic Cell Salt which works in a manner that is difficult to understand, but which does work very positively to CURE GERD.

I am adding the notes of Dr Schuessler who first recorded the unusual properties of Nat Phos 6x and 11 other Cell Salts which are recognised today as having some unusual properties which are largely unknown or not accepted by classical Homeopaths and which I would like others to know and use as I have done for over 2 Decades, ever since I started to use them myself and to prescribe for suffering humanity, although I am 85 years of age and am not a professional Homeopath.

Infant cured of Baby GERD with Nat Phos 6x

“My son is 13 months old and is Prevacid free thanks to Mr. De Livera’s therapy “Joepathy”. My son was first diagnosed with “silent” acid reflux around 6 weeks old. He began gagging in his sleep so we took him to the Children’s ER. We were told to elevate his crib and hold him upright for 30 minutes after nursing. He continued to gag in his sleep and breathing problems ensued. The second ER trip, they gave me diet restrictions and provided us with a “danny sling” to keep our son more upright during sleep. A few days later my son was screaming in pain for hours and the only thing that would console him was breastmilk but each time I nursed him, he would be screaming again 30 minutes later. Again, we went to the ER and this time they had us stay for more testing which confirmed the reflux. My son was given Zantac which seemed to help for a while then his symptoms returned. We tried chiropractic and acupuncture but it didn’t help. We were severely sleep deprived and desperate by the time we saw a pediatric GI specialist who recommended Prevacid which he began using at 4 months old. We tried weaning him from Prevacid around 9 months with no success. At 12 months, we were determined to have him off of it. We began this by giving him half his normal dose. He did well for 2 weeks, then he began showing reflux symptoms again. This is when I consulted Mr. De Livera for his therapy. We started the Nat Phos 6x and I stopped the Prevacid. He did well the first couple days and then he seemed to still be suffering from reflux symptoms. I also believe he was having acid rebound which can happen when stopping the PPI medication. I continued Mr. De Livera’s therapy and in less than two weeks my son’s reflux symptoms were gone. It’s been almost a month and he is still symptom free. Thank God! We are very grateful for Mr. De Livera’s help. I only wish I had known about this therapy from the beginning. It works and anyone who’s had a child with reflux needs to know about it! ”

I would like to add that Nat Phos 6x is best taken immediately after a meal and the dosage depends on the intensity of the ailment. 2 tablets usually suffice but in the case of Chronic GERD the Adult patient may increase the dosage to a maximum of 6 tablets after a meal although 2-4 usually work to alleviate the uncomfortable burning sensation which has sometimes been diagnosed as a Heart Attack, when the patient is rushed to the ER.

Nat Phos 6x seems to work by stimulating Peristalsis as the patient who is suffering from severe discomfort and burning after a meal suddenly feels relieved after taking the dose of Nat Phos 6x (3-6 tablets) in the short space of about 10 minutes.

The bonus that can be enjoyed by the regular use of Nat Phos 6x is the reduction of weight by 1kg per WEEK and this may be of interest to those who have tried other means of weight reduction unsuccessfully.

Nat Phos 6x is absolutely safe in use even over long periods and can be safely used to CURE all cases of GERD.

Dr Wilhelm D Schuessler
Natrium Phosphoricum 6x

Sodium and Phosphate ions are to be found in our body in the muscle, nerve and brain cells, in the blood corpuscles and in the tissue fluids. Nat Phos splits the lactic acid, which is produced by the work of muscles into carbonic acid and water. The carbonic acid is absorbed by the sodium phosphate and brought to the lungs where it is eliminated in the process of breathing. If sodium phosphate is lacking, there results an excess of lactic acid and consequently a sour taste, heart burn, sour stools, vomiting of sour, caseous matter, particularly in babies who are overfed with sugar and milk. If lactic acid reaches the lymphatic glands, the albumin of the lymph glands coagulates and the gland begins to swell. In the initial stages of swelling of the lymphatic glands therefore, Nat Phos has a healing effect because it can split lactic acid. Nat Phos further assures that the uric acid of the blood which is formed by the splitting up of the albuminous substance is kept in solution and secreted by the kidneys. Should this not be the case, uric acid will be deposited in the joints. The sequels are Rheumatism. Gout, Sciatica, Lumbago. In the Gall, Nat Phos saponifies the fatty acids which have been consumed with the food. It is hence indicated against digestive disturbances resulting from excessive consumption of fat.

May 2014

Thursday, May 1st, 2014

April 2014

Sunday, April 6th, 2014

Arnica CURES Eczema in 20 days.

Monday, March 31st, 2014

Submitted on 2014/03/30 at 11:03 PM

Respected, Dr Joe De Livera, As requested, below is a complete case record of my Eczema and successful treatment with Joepathy:
I am 67 years old male from India . In begining of Sept.’13, I experienced skin problem having rashes and ichings on my hands, side back, buttocks, and outer thighs . I contacted a skin specialist doctor and started allopathic treatment that included (1) Inj Karacort 40mg – once only, (2) Tab Allegra M – morning (3) Lerafil 5 – night (4) Emolin cream – morning and (5) Halovate F cream – evening. This treatment was given for one month and it gave me significant relief but by leaving the treatment symptoms started reappearing.
A friend of mine suggested that Homeopathy can provide lasting cure for skin problems, so I contacted a Homeopathic Doctor who gave me the following treatment on weekly basis: (1st week) Romex 30, Astacus 30, LRT UR 30 (2) Fago 30 and Astacus 30 (3) Apis 30 (4) GR 30, Croton 30, Apis 30 (5) Croton Tig 30, Astacus 30, PET 30 (6) CR 30, PET 30, GR 30+, UTR LR 30, (7th week) Astacus 30, Fago 30, Apis 30. The Homeopathic doctor indicated that I can simultaneously continue my allopathic treatment also. However, I took only the Homeopathic medicines for 7 weeks. During this period, the itching and rashes started appearing, I again started taking allopathic medicines.
In Jan’14, I read an article on Arnica 30c wet dose by Mr Joe De Livera which fascinated me so much that from 5th February 2014, I stopped all previous treatments and started taking Arnica 30c Wet Dose twice daily and also applying the same over the rashes. I noticed that rashes and itching started diminishing and reduced by almost 90% within a period of 15 days .
I observed that although no rashes, but sort of burning/itching used to occur on side of thighs, knees and hands, I brought this to the knowledge of Mr Joe De Livera and he advised me to replace Arnica 30c by Arnica 6c wet dose Thrice daily and apply the same on the iching/burning areas ( Eczema ).
I started using Arnica 6c w.e.f. 13 03.14 and by 26.03.14 found that all my problems of skin cured by 26.03.14. I do not have words to convey Dr De Livera
about the efficacy of wet dose invented by him in “Joepathy”. And undoubtaly I am a fan of him because of his selfless service to the mankind.
With Warm Regards,
I. Singh