Baby CURED of Baby GERD in5 weeks

By Joe November 20th, 2014, under Uncategorized

I am copying below the case of a baby who was CURED of his Baby GERD in a 5 weeks.

sonya.gardner says:
November 15, 2014 at 12:40 AM (Edit)
Hello Joe,

I have a 9 week old boy who is slightly over 12lbs. He was diagnosed with acid reflux 3 weeks ago and prescribed Zantac. The drug seemed to work wonders for the first few days and then his acid refux symptoms seemed to progressively get worse. The doctor just recently increased his dose of Zantac. I don’t think the medicine is working well and I prefer to use natural means.

Symptoms: I am unable to nurse my baby since he refuses the breast (I have to pump and bottle feed). When I feed him the bottle (with breastmilk) he is fine while he is eating, but afterwards always spits up. He has constant gas. In addition to giving him Zantac. I have also been using colic calm and he has been wearing a hazlewood necklace for the past two weeks (this hasn’t seemed to work). I would like to go back to nursing him from my breast as pumping for every feeding as well as taking care for my 23month old is getting exhausting.

Should I proceed with your normal ‘prescription’ of Nat Phos? Also what recommendation do you have for changes in my diet (I’ve a vegetarian who just recently cut out dairy to see if that helped). I am willing to do whatever it takes for my baby…

Thanks for all you do!

Sonya

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• Joe says:
November 15, 2014 at 6:51 AM (Edit)
I noticed that you have addressed me by my given name, Joe.
I do not permit being addressed by name on my website, as I only permit my peers and close friends to do so.

Here in Sri Lanka where I live, we have a modicum of respect for age.
I am 86 years old.

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• sonya gardner says:
November 15, 2014 at 2:40 PM (Edit)
Dear Dr. De Livera

Please accept my apologies. I did not intend to disrespect you in any way.

I noticed how you replied to subsequent post concerning a baby with a similar problem. I started my baby on the Nat Phos last night and will continue to do so as you outlined below to ‘salempeacock’.

Could you please tell me know more about specific foods I should avoid eating that will help my baby?

Thanks so much!

Very Respectfully,
Sonya

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• Joe says:
November 15, 2014 at 3:30 PM (Edit)
Apology accepted. I felt that I should protest because it did seem strange to me have a stranger addressing me an 86 year old, by name on a first encounter.

You did right by giving baby Nat Phos 6x (half tablet before and the balance after) a feed.

I would suggest that you too take the same Nat Phos tablets , 2 after each meal, as the effect will pass over to baby in your breast milk.

Keep me advised of his response in 24 hours.

Do not ever give him the dangerous PPI drugs like Zantac and about 50 other brands which is what doctors are programmed to give even baby patients although they are all aware of the serious damage these drugs cause to adults which is only second to the damage cause by Statins which are liberally prescribed to reduce Cholesterol.

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• sonya gardner says:
November 15, 2014 at 7:14 PM (Edit)
Dear Dr. De Livera,

Thank you for accepting my apology and the quick response!

I have discontinued use of the PPI drug and am so glad I did after reading everything about it.

I will definitely report back after 24 hours. I am affirming that the Nat Phos is working and will be reporting back great news soon…

V/R,
Sonya

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• sonya gardner says:
November 17, 2014 at 5:51 AM (Edit)
Good Morning Dr. De Livera,

Thanks again for the support you are providing, I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. This was the soonest I was able to update.

My son has been on Nat Phos for 36 hours as you advised and his progress is as follows:

Initial 24 hours:
-Gas seemed to exit his body less forcefully and had a very strong foul odor
-The first 4 feedings went well with minimal spit up and fussing
-The last 2 feedings he squealed in pain and had a large amount of spit up
-I did not administer Nat Phos during the middle of the night feeding

Please note: I administered 1 tsp of 100% aloe vera juice to help soothe his tummy in the late evening (please let me know if I should not do this)

Subsequent 12 hours:

-First two feedings were difficult (he was in pain and didn’t want to finish nursing) so his subsequent naps were short and he was fussy
-The remaining feedings of the day I began giving him a full tablet of Nat Phos before and after the feeding
-The late afternoon feeding went very, very well he nursed very well and did not squeal in pain during the feeding. He had some fussiness after the feeding and spit up quite a bit. This feeding was followed by the restful (and only) nap of the day.
The next feeding went ok, he got a full nursing but squealed in pain in between switching breasts, this feeding was followed by spit up and burping. I’m waiting for him to fall asleep now for a catnap before I feed him again and lay him down for the evening.
-Note: all day he has been having very foul smelling gas
-Also note: Today I started him infant pro biotics and plan on continuing this unless otherwise directed.

I am very much looking forward to hearing how I should proceed. And again thank you so much for your time and sharing your knowledge.

Very Respectfully,
Sonya Gardner

• Joe says:
November 17, 2014 at 6:31 AM (Edit)
He seems to be responding satisfactorily for 36 hours under my therapy.

” I administered 1 tsp of 100% aloe vera juice to help soothe his tummy in the late evening (please let me know if I should not do this)”
DO NOT EVER GIVE BABY ALOE VERA JUICE IN THE FUTURE.

• sonya gardner says:
November 17, 2014 at 7:32 AM (Edit)
Dr. De Livera,

Thank you so much for guidance. I will not give my baby aloe anymore.

I was wondering if you can tell me about two things: 1) Will the foul odor gas subside once he is cured? , is this smell the cause of detoxification? and 2) Seeing how he is responding satisfactorily for the first 36 hours, it is expected that he will be cured by the end of 72 hours and that i will no longer have to administer Nat Phos?

Thank you so much,

V/R,
Sonya

• Joe says:
November 17, 2014 at 10:32 AM (Edit)
I believe that your baby needs a repopulation of the bacteria (flora and fauna) in his gut. Ask for a Probiotic suitable for babies from your pediatrician. It is very likely that there is some bacteria that are causing the milk to generate methane which is what causes the unpleasant odour which incidentally is not usual for babies. The Probiotic will fix this problem by repopulating the gut with ‘good’ bacteria and all will be well.

Glad to learn that baby responded so very quickly in just 36 hours and if in fact he does not show any signs of distress in the next 72 hours, please feel free to stop all medication.

In any case Nat Phos 6x is NOT a drug and you are invited to look it up on Google under “Nat Phos 6x Biochemic Cell Salt”

• sonya gardner says:
November 20, 2014 at 12:21 AM (Edit)
Good Morning Dr. De Livera,

Thank you so much for helping me regain my son’s health. It is safe to say that he is cured!

He does spit up still on occasion but it is mimimal and it is not accompanied by painful squeels or cries.

I really appreciate you very much!!!!!

I would also like to share with you and others an additional intervention that supplemented the therapy you prescribed. I believe my son was suffering from “Lactose Overload” caused by an over abundant milk supply (more information found here: http://www.babycareadvice.com/babycare/general_help/article.php?id=18)

As you discussed in the previous reply, gas should not be foul in odor. I have started him on pro biotics and also did some research regarding infant foul gas and found the above website.

In an attempt to have a ‘backstock’ of milk for returning back to work and to ensure that I didn‘t experience low supply (like I did with my first) I ended up creating an oversupply which set the stage for ‘lactose overload’ and then was realized by the oversupply coupled with my poor management of feedings. The oversupply was created when I began expressing extra milk after each morning feed starting when he was 3 weeks old; I would often express 6-8 ouncces after feeding him. My feeding management was poor in the essencse that I switched breasts too frequently causing my son to get too much foremilk compared to hind milk.

For the past 36 hours I have been block feeding him ensuring he is getting more hind milk and his smelly gas has completely subsided. I am still continuing the pro biotics which will be good to help undue any depletion of good bacteria that occurred because of the PPI (he was on for 3 weeks).

Thanks again for all you do!

Very Respectfull,
Sonya

Posts for November

By Joe November 2nd, 2014, under Uncategorized

She returns to her normal cooking in just 48 hours after surgery

By Joe October 15th, 2014, under Uncategorized

A patient records her experience in taking Arnica 30c in the Wet dose every 2 hours both before and after a Laparoscopic Hysterectomy using the Da Vinci Robot assisted method.

I was absolutely surprised to read her response in 48 hours:
“It is just 2 days since surgery and there is no pain just a bit of tenderness near my belly button as one incision was made there and 2 closer to my hips. I suffered from gas pains yesterday but that no longer is a problem. I am able to walk around the house normally and even did some cooking. ”

Here is her record of her surgery in her own words

Gettin-Beta says:
October 9, 2014 at 6:50 PM (Edit)
Arnica prevents post-surgery pain

Dear Joe, as you suggested I began the wet dose every 2 hours a day before my surgery. Although I had woken up that day feeling lethargic, it was like it gave me a shot of energy. The next morning Oct 6, I was up early and in a great mood as I headed out for my laproscopic hysterectomy. They used the Da Vinci – robot assisted method.

Many times after I came out of surgery the nurses and my doc asked me if I was feeling pain, but there was none, although it could be due in part to the pain killer in the IV. But they seemed surprised that I was quite alert so soon after a 1.5 hour surgery able to speak to them clearly. The doc said it was a perfect surgery as my levels were all perfect and I didn’t bleed much. I was pleased to hear that – she said at 51 yrs many women are already on daily medication for either diabetes, bp, heart, thyroid, cholesterol etc. I don’t take any medications at all. I was discharged from hospital the same day although she said I could stay if I felt like it.

I continued with the 2 hourly Arnica even after surgery and can attribute my quick recovery to your prescription. It is just 2 days since surgery and there is no pain just a bit of tenderness near my belly button as one incision was made there and 2 closer to my hips. I suffered from gas pains yesterday but that no longer is a problem. I am able to walk around the house normally and even did some cooking. My family is surprised at the speed of recovery. Thanks Joe. So glad that I didn’t bother buying the Percocet and other strong painkillers that Dr. Shuman recommended. She and the nurses asked what it was I was taking .. and yes I told them about Arnica in the wet dose. Joepathy wins again!

On Oct 19 you will turn 86 Joe! How fulfilling your life must be being able to help and heal so many. God bless you always.
Cathy

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• Joe says:
October 10, 2014 at 7:09 AM (Edit)
Cathy

Thank you for recording your response to my Pre and Post Surgical therapy with Arnica 30c which as I informed you, was first used by me way back in 2002 when I was in surgery for a Retropubic Prostatectomy, when I just refused to be treated with the Morphine Auto dosage syringe ($200) which was already connected to my IV line when I woke up and which I insisted on being disconnected after I gave a waiver to the hospital in Columbus OH, absolving them from any claim in the event of my passing out ! I used the same Arnica 30c protocol every 2 hours and at age 72, I too surprised the nursing staff and my surgeon by walking out of hospital on the 5th day post surgery. My recovery too was very fast like yours and I do hope that other patients who contemplate any future surgery will follow my protocol as it has worked for me and many patients whom I have advised subsequently.

I do admire your pluck in returning back to your normal housework in 24 hours after discharge from hospital but I would recommend that you do rest more and also take a nap after lunch for which I felt the need after my surgery.

I had not heard of the procedure you had, the “Da Vinci Robotic Assisted Hysterectomy” and I did a search on Google and was delighted to watch the procedure on:

This YouTube clip is just over 8 minutes long and I presume that this was the whole surgical procedure. The bleeding was minimal.

You and your husband have been my patients for over 5 years and you are witnesses to the incredible power of this simple and safe remedy Arnica which we all use on a daily basis. We are living testimony to the efficacy of this remedy and all I can do is to advise anyone who reads this thread to take Arnica 30c in the Wet dose as per instructions below nightly or more often as needed throughout their lives and thereby enjoy the status of wellness that we, who have taken this remedy, in my case since 1996 and in the case of Cathy for over 5 years, all enjoy.

For the record, I would like to state that I will turn 86 years of age on the 19th October and I do still drive to work daily in my family owned business organization the running of which I now share with my youngest son. I do not have any ache or pain in my body when I wake up after just 6 hours sleep. I do exercise for about an hour daily and do not take any drugs whatever and my vital statistics are all at normal levels.

Suggested reading on my Website:

ARNICA THE MIRACLE REMEDY

Arnica the MIRACLE REMEDY

PILL POPPING CULTURE

Home

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

Do not use Coffee, Cola beverages, preserved foods like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter.

EBOLA seems to be spreading throughout the world

By Joe October 7th, 2014, under Uncategorized

I am copying a few links to news reports from the world’s Press to keep visitors aware of the progress of EBOLA which seems to be spreading throughout the world.

Experimental drug likely saved Ebola patients
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/04/health/experimental-ebola-serum/index.html?sr=tw080414ebolaserum1030aStoryPhoto

U.S. working on new screenings for Ebola but no travel ban
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/06/us-health-ebola-usa-idUSKCN0HT0MZ20141006

US health providers expand their Ebola precautions
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f5287413a3034c45ae1e2815bb58526f/us-health-providers-expand-their-ebola-precautions

Spaniard has Ebola in 1st infection outside Africa
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_SPAIN_EBOLA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-06-14-41-22

Posts for October

By Joe October 1st, 2014, under Uncategorized

Posts for September

By Joe September 1st, 2014, under Uncategorized

ACNE responds in just 2 DAYS to “Joepathy”

By Joe August 26th, 2014, under Uncategorized

I am copying the conversations I had with Jenny just 2 days ago when she consulted me about her Acne and was pleasantly surprised to have a post from her a short while ago where she states:

“I am so happy to see that all my acne have started to dry off. The pain is gone.The big pimples have started to shrink.”

August 24, 2014 at 12:54 AM (Edit)
Sir
I am 37 years old. I have been having acne since march this year.It started as small sand grain like pimples.But now I get very big ones which scar and looks like keloid. But it is interesting to note that the pimples are mostly on the right cheek and only a very few are on the left. I have taken antibiotics and used topical creams to no use. Also I changed my soap. I have a little oily skin which was clear. I have never had acne all through life. Now I am using cetaphil soap. I just came across your website today and was so glad you are patiently treating so many people. I believe that you can help me with my problem too. Awaiting your earliest reply as I am totally depressed of my acne.

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• Joe says:
August 24, 2014 at 7:40 AM (Edit)
I shall copy my default therapy for Acne which I hope can help you.

The remedy that has helped many is Arnica 6c in the Wet dose taken twice daily orally, and also applied directly on the lesions on the face as often as is possible, to keep the lesions damp.

It is essential that the patient continues to take just one dose of Arnica 6c nightly just before bed for at least 6 months after the problem has been resolved as there is every chance that the lesions can return otherwise.

Use a spray device in which the medicated water can be stored and be sprayed on the acne lesions or the eyelids without directly touching them.

You will not take any drugs when you start my therapy.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Alcohol pack aka Liquid Dilution in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake it hard to produce bubbles. This is homeopathic succussion and must be done every time before a capful of the bottle which is the dose is taken as directed.

Do not use Coffee, Cola beverages, preserved foods like sausages, ham and bacon as they contain Saltpeter.

Please post your response to the Arnica therapy in a week.

I am copying the conversation that Jenny had with me over the last 2 days and I was gratified to have her post today that she
• Jenny says:
August 24, 2014 at 8:34 AM (Edit)
Thankyou very much sir. Is it ok to use soap on the face during the therapy ? If so could you please suggest.

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• Joe says:
August 24, 2014 at 10:39 AM (Edit)
You may use any mild soap when washing your face as you should discover in under a week that your lesions will stabilize.

I would appreciate if you will please report your progress as soon as you discover your acne drying up as patients have reported that they did so on the third day after their first dose of Arnica 6c.

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• Jenny says:
August 24, 2014 at 11:04 AM (Edit)
Yes sir. I will report the progress. And I will also continue using the same soap Cetaphil which I am using now.
Thankyou for being so kind as to reply immediately.

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Submitted on 2014/08/26 at 1:36 PM
Sir
I have been using arnica 6c wetdose two days now.. according to your advice. And I am so happy to see that all my acne have started to dry off. The pain is gone.The big pimples have started to shrink. Thankyou so very much sir. I have been spraying the wetdose on my face too. But today I could not do so.. as I had to go to work. And I also put powder on my face today. Maybe because of that…one or two pimples have flared up a bit now in the afternoon compared to how it was in the morning. Should I stop using talcum powder on my face ? And is it ok if I spray the medicine in the morning and evening alone ? Please could you advice.

A Grateful patient with Diabetes Type I confirms how Arnica reduced his Blood Sugar level

By Joe August 5th, 2014, under Uncategorized

Res Sir,

It was nice in talking to you after a long time. Really Sir you are a great personality who is doing a lot for many many people who are having different different health problems.

On your advice I have taken Arnica 6 dose as you prescribed many years before I used regularly for two continuous years & it did a lot of change in my insulin dose. From 26 units of insulin which I use to take daily before breakfast & 22 units before dinner has been totally reduced to just 6 to 8 units before breakfast & 6 units before dinner.

Really really appreciable.

I thank you from the core of my heart.

With Warm Regards,
Rana Mohnish Dhir
India

dhirmohnish@hotmail.com

Posts for August

By Joe August 2nd, 2014, under Uncategorized

Debate on the ABC Homeopathy Forum on “Joepathy” July 22 2014

By Joe July 22nd, 2014, under Uncategorized

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/438284/1

To Fitness

I happened to read your statement in your post above:
“A particular person is promoting Nat-Phos as THE remedy for curing GERD by selectively quoting parents benefiting from his Nat-Phos protocol.”

As I am the person to whom you refer, I wish to dispel the doubts that you seek to propagate of my therapy aka “Joepathy” which helps Baby GERD usually in under 6 hours or 2 feeds and CURES it in under 3 days in direct comparison to your classical therapy which can take up to 2 weeks to do so. In the meanwhile the poor suffering baby and the parents continue to spend anxious days and nights wondering when the agony of the reflux of the milk will finally end. In some cases these mothers have consulted me and discovered the miracle of Joepathy which CURES their problem overnight.

I would like to add that I treat all patients free of charge and in Sri Lanka where I live, I also provide the Homeopathic remedy free of charge.

You stated:
“THE NAT-PHOS MISINFORMATION
Homeopathy works on “individualization” i.e. the remedy for GERD which will work on one child may not work on another. There are several remedies for GERD. A particular person is promoting Nat-Phos as THE remedy for curing GERD by selectively quoting parents benefiting from his Nat-Phos protocol. This is not only incorrect but totally against the principles of “individualization” in homeopathy. I am sure desperate parents would do anything to get the cure but blindly going for Nat-Phos is not the route as many have found the hard way. It’s a case of common sense & statistics. If you give Nat-Phos to 100 kids for GERD, some are bound to improve, it doesn’t mean that it’s THE remedy for GERD. Next time someone touts Nat-Phos as the remedy for GERD ask him the statistics first. ”

I do not subscribe to your ‘classical’ theory that a cure of an ailment is only possible by ‘individualization’ in Homeopathy. You may perhaps be aware that I am 85 years of age and am the most senior Homeopath to be actively involved in helping suffering humanity in the whole world. I do so purely for the deep satisfaction I derive in so doing at my advanced age, if only to disprove types like you and a few others who take umbrage at my Joepathy perhaps prompted by jealousy, of the success that attends the CURES of the many ailments and diseases as confirmed by the patients themselves on my website:

www.joedelivera.com

I do not think that you are aware that I am not the only Homeopath to use my “This for That” therapy in treating patients as Dr Prasanta Banerji, a qualified Homeopath who treats over 1500 patients daily free of charge like me, in his own:

PRASANTA BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION

http://www.pbhrfindia.org/

states:

“The Banerji Protocol is a new method of treatment using homeopathic medicines. Specific medicines are prescribed for specific diseases. Diseases are diagnosed using modern/state of the art methods. This is done because modern diagnostic approaches incorporate and help in the selection of medicines so that specific medicines could be easily prescribed for specific diseases. This is not practiced in classical homeopathy.

The concept of specific homeopathic medicine for a disease based on symptoms was first perceived and practiced by Late Dr. Pareshnath Banerji. With the passage of time and the availability of new diagnostic tools like Ultrasonography, MRIs, c-ancer markers and other advanced tests, we were able to further streamline the treatment protocols accurately. The efficiency of this streamlining is reflected by the encouraging results of The Banerji Protocol.

In The Banerji Protocol of treatment, mixtures of remedies or frequent repetitions of the remedies are used when required. This is not practiced in classical homeopathy. The combination of two potentized medicines, we use, are made in a meaningful way based on years of clinical experiments and observations by us. They are mixed for special advantages in treatment, so that the aggravation due to drugs can be checked, side effects of the medicines can be abated, quick and uneventful recovery can be ensured in a much shorter time.

Specific homeopathic medicines are also used for supportive care. Homeopathic medicines prescribed on constitutional grounds may play a useful role in supportive and palliative for patients with malignant disease.”

You have also stated:
” Next time someone touts Nat-Phos as the remedy for GERD ask him the statistics first. ”

You are invited to visit my website to read the statistics of grateful mothers on:

Home


and

Home

You may like to know that I have weathered many years of criticism on the ABC and 3 other Homeopathic Forums successfully and
emerged with flying colours purely on the basis of the same statistics that you demanded which are all available for you to study and hopefully accept on the basis of the patients own confirmation of their cures which some considered as “Miraculous”.

For the record I shall copy my default therapy for Baby GERD which I have prescribed for hundreds of babies below. I am proud to state that the rate of success of using my Joepathy is over 95% as can be proved by an analysis of the statements by parents on my website all of which are not included in the 2 links above.

The remedy that has proved to be very effective for Baby GERD is:

Nat Phos 6x tablet dissolved in milk given immediately after a feed. Start with half tablet but if the response is not as expected, you may increase to a full tablet but you will not exceed 6 tablets in 24 hours.

You may like to try to reduce the quantity of milk you give for each feed to enable baby’s digestion to stabilize. You will however feed more often. It is essential that you burp baby immediately after each feed.

You will avoid eating all food that can cause any distress to baby.You must know that they are passed on to baby through your breast milk.

It is best not to vaccinate Baby till s/he is over a year old as the after effects in some cases can add to the problems with GERD.
Do not give Baby any solid food till s/he is over 8 months of age.

You (the mother) will take Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after each of 3 meals daily. The idea is that your milk will pass the effect to baby. You may like to know that Nat Phos 6x will help to reduce your weight by 1kg per week very safely.
Report progress in 24 hours and as often as you wish on this thread.

If you discover that baby does not respond to the Nat Phos 6x alone and this has occurred in a few cases, you will contact me again and I shall then prescribe another remedy to reinforce the action of Nat Phos 6x.

I would like to add in conclusion that it is rarely that I have to waste my time in defending my Joepathy but I felt that I should do so here on this thread to dispel the misinformation that you seek to spread of
my Joepathy which CURES the ailments of suffering humanity free of charge.

Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From miriams on 2014-07-20
Hi Fitness

Thank you for the reply. I will certainly try this remedy. I need to order it I should be able to start it on Tues.

Can I ask you: –

1) Is the remedy you suggested a different one from the tissue salt calc phos ( I think the full name is calcium phosphate)

2) do I stop giving Zantac while I try this remedy. I have stopped Zantac before while trying remedies and it was always stressful, as Zantac does give some relief to my daughter. If you say to stop then I will follow your lead.

Thanks again
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From miriams on 2014-07-20
To Joe,

I have tried your protocol, i.e. nat phos for my daughter ( hylands brand) and nat phos for me and I was taking arnica twice daily but it did not resolve my daughter’s condition. I did this for about 5 days. I stopped as it was not working and started by daughter on zantac, which I hate but I have 3 other small children to consider.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Miriams,

Its the potentized form, not the tissue salt. These work totally differently.

You have to stop Zantac while using the remedy or you will never know what is working.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Joe,

I don’t doubt your sincerity, its your competence that I am questioning.

You can use remedies any way you like, please don’t call it homeopathy as I am sure you know how homeopathy works only on three basic principles.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-21
To Fitness

I can see that you have not read and UNDERSTOOD the impact of my last post addressed to you as you would not otherwise have questioned my ‘competence’ to help patients who consult me, both here on the ABC and on my Website.

I have already stated in my last post that I did originally use the same methodology that you and other classical homeopaths use to elicit the symptoms and treat them with that elusive single remedy in accordance with your studies in college. I realized that this resulted in a waste of time which left the patient suffering from his/her ailment while I (or you) followed the protocol dictated by the tenets of classical homeopathy which I rejected, in common with Dr P Banerji many years ago, as the therapy I prescribed just did NOT work.

You must accept in principle that a patient consults a physician to treat the ailment presented and is not interested in the methodology used to do so by the doctor. The patient expects to be CURED asap and this is very relevant from the standpoint of anxious mothers who present their babies with GERD and expect to have them cured ASAP which unfortunately does not occur in your case in common with many other classical homeopaths who are consulted on the ABC and other Homeopathic Forums.

I did not attend any Homeopathic College as Homeopathy is only a Hobby to me to which I am dedicated. I do treat a few selected patients by appointment and you will perhaps understand the reason why I choose to do so, as I prefer to treat difficult cases like Robert Ray whom I CURED of the after effect of 3 strokes he had suffered in 2002 shortly after he consulted me on the ABC in 2002.

Robert Ray was CURED from the after effects of 3 Strokes he suffered from 2002 to 2010

This is another reason for my establishing my own Website to enable anyone in distress, anywhere in the world to consult me and you can read the many accounts of CURES, I have achieved as confirmed by the patients themselves. I repeat again that I do so free of charge unlike you and others who do charge for advice on your own websites.
You stated:
“You can use remedies any way you like, please don’t call it homeopathy as I am sure you know how homeopathy works only on three basic principles.”

I repeat again that I do not prescribe on the basis of classical homeopathy as my therapy has been dubbed “JOEPATHY” by a coterie of classical homeopaths who were in the
habit of challenging every post I made over 5 years ago on 3 Homeopathic Forums which made me establish my own Website which I presume you have visited as requested by me. I am proud to state that I practice “JOEPATHY” and am surprised that this term attracts over 2000 hits on Google.

I would like to copy a page listed on Google from the Homeopathy and More website I founded in 2006 with a friend Praveen Wadhwa who is a Computer Engineer by profession and like me was not qualified in Homeopathy but was dedicated to this Science. He wrote the software for this Website but has sadly not been active on it for the last 4 years.

Joepathy – My Reaction
By: msrao
October 29 2008
Dear Sir,
This is the first time I am coming across the term ‘Joepathy’.Perhaps this is due to my inadequate exposure to the outside world or may be indifference.In fact as soon as I came to know the existence of such a web (through you) I logged into it with some excitement. While doing so I trespassed in to neighboring websites as well!To say the least I was shocked to see the vituperative language used by your detractors. While I am not competent to go into the merits of the dispute I cannot help myself from expressing my opinion on this vexed issue. My knowledge of homeopathy is rudimentary which I picked up from my frequent visits to homeopathic stores and desultory reading of some elementary books on the subject. But as a layman I think I am entitled to express my views on the subject.

As I understand the whole problem revolves around specific medicine for a particular ailment as against the totality of symptoms advocated by the classical homeopaths. When I visit any homeopathic stores, I find that some of the internationally renowned firms dishing out medicines for specific ailments containing combination of a number of homeopathic medicines, whereas the method followed by you , is at least, a single remedy at a time (as I understand). Is it not more ‘criminal’ than the method followed by you?

Your plea is that you have found a particular medicine(drug)cures more diseases than mentioned in the conventional materia medica (by dint of your experience)and as such to be included in the materia medica, of course after proper investigation.

If a drug or medicine happens to be panacea for a host of ailments, then, what is wrong in prescribing that medicine and sharing the knowledge with others?

I have seen a number of homeopaths (classical or otherwise) prescribing one medicine for the morning and another for evening. Does it not go against the grain of pure homeopathic principles? Slowly and irrevocably we are slipping into combination theory, in a novel way, whether we admit it or not.

Your suggestion that the provings should be carried forward and not content ourselves with already known is noteworthy. This calls for an open mind on the part of medical fraternity.

I would request you to ignore the diatribe and continue to serve the humanity. At one stage you expressed your anguish that you were spending more time in defending yourself than attending to the needs of patients. It is a pity!

I think I have understood the case and my remarks make sense.

Long live Joe the maverick!

With regards,
M.S.Rao

Re: Joepathy – My Reaction
By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
October 29 2008
I was delighted to read your post which made me realize that many people who have read my posts on the Homeopathic Forums I used to visit daily in the past, have finally realized that the therapy I have tried to promote for the last 5 years on various Homeopathic forums is based on the “this for that” therapy aka “Joepathy”. I did so as I discovered that it was far more effective than the stereotype classical method that some classically trained homeopaths use. Please note that this term Joepathy owes its origin to the same classical homeopathic fraternity and I often feel that in coining this term which they originally used in a derisive sense, they unwittingly honoured me as this term Jeopathy is now internationally accepted to describe the direct allopathic form of therapy that I use. Google picked it up some time ago and lists some of my more interesting cases numbering over 120.

I have persisted in using Joepathy to help my patients as I have invariably found that the elusive single remedy that the learned classical homeopath finally prescribes, according to the rules, for the totality of the symptoms that a patient presents from the top of his head does not usually work. As a result the patient is sent home in greater distress than when he consulted the homeopath who charges a handsome fee for each consultation. In my case as I presume that you are aware, I do not levy any charge for my services as I am not a professional qualified homeopath. To me Homeopathy is only a hobby which I practice in my free time as it gives me a deep sense of satisfaction to heal anyone who consults me which many do after they have visited doctors, ayurvedic physicians and classical homeopaths. They consult me as a last resort and are agreeably surprised to discover that their ailment from which they had suffered sometimes for years is history, often overnight.

It is the criticism of my therapy that irked me resulting in my spending more time in defending Joepathy. I have always maintained that it is the patient who comes first and not the method used, classical or Joepathy that matters. I cannot understand the reason why I have been subjected to this constant criticism as the proof of the pudding is there in all the forums for anyone to read and the number of grateful patients who have testified to have been cured is too numerous to be counted.

I would like you to please visit the link below and read the discussion that ensued some years ago on another forum where I have spelt out in detail the reason for my preferring my own Joepathy over the classical method and I shall be interested to have your response to this post. I believe that comments from those who are interested in using the Joepathy form of therapy can help to advance the progress of Homeopathy.

http://www.otherhealth.com/homeopathy-discussion/6576-all-ho…

Re:Joepathy – My Reaction
By: msrao
October 31 2008
Dear Sir,
I have gone through the website suggested by you and other related websites.What I gather is ….the members have taken umbrage at your using the forum for propagating your brand of “pathy”.It is understandable.But it is sad to see that the discussion has degenerated into downright abuse.
The learned members are of the view that it is unethical and sometimes dangerous to prescribe medicines solely on the basis of a few physical symptoms without taking into account the totality of symptoms.This is perfectly in line with the basic principles of homeopathy.But this is an ideal situation.However the present day life demands a little flexibility.
What baffles me is that even veterans like Nash say that a peculiar physical symptom clinches the selection of the remedy irrespective of the nature of the disease.I am also of the opinion that taking the case in an elaborate manner is a luxury which we can ill afford,when a simpler but effective method can be adopted.That is what exactly Mr.Joe is trying to do.I am not suggesting that homeopathic principles as propounded by the founder should be thrown to winds.We should strive to follow it where ever possible ,but mulishly adhering to it in the face of fast changing lifestyle is not going to advance the cause of homeopathy nor will help the public.The array of homeopathic medicines and the radical literature available in the market is a witness to the silent revolution that is taking place.I have seen many a successful practitioners adopting a slightly different approach.Painting Mr.Joe as some one with sinister motives is most uncalled for.
Let me recant my recent experience.Two months ago I traveled from Detroit to LasVegas (4hrsflight).A few hours after landing I got excruciating pain in the lower legs.I attributed it to arthritis the most common ailment of advancing years .As I was almost “crippled”I took a pain killer to tide over the crisis.But I felt that the root cause lay elsewhere.I felt that this was something to do with poor circulation of blood in the lower legs.(as I had read and seen on TV).I had also read that Ferrum Phos and Arnica would be useful in such cases.I took these and in a few days I was relieved of the pain and it has not returned since.I did not take any mental symptoms in to account.Q uackery at its best!I crave the indulgence of the members.I do not pretend to educate the members nor is my intention that others should follow suit.I understand that this occurs when the heart becomes “inefficient”and these medicines tone up the muscles.
The ultimate aim of any system is to give relief if not complete cure.If any medicine is helpful in this pursuit it is most welcome,call it by any name.
I abhor to call ‘joepathy’ as a separate system.The same homeopathic medicines are used except that emphasis is on physical symptoms.What about tissue salts …..the whole philosophy being that deficiency of any one of the twelve salts identified by the founder causes disease,without undue emphasis on mental symptoms.The homeopaths have taken this system under their umbrella!
Let not ‘Joe’ issue be blown out of proportion and my humble request is that his experience should be utilised for the benefit of mankind.
I stand corrected,if I am wrong.
With regards,
MS.Rao.

We Love Mr.Joe in this forum and we have great respect for his contributions to humanity. And in this forum, we go much beyond just “homeopathy”. The term homeopathy might have emerged 200 years ago, but the principle ” Like cures like ” is very very ancient. Infact, many vedic literatures talk in detail about the efficacy of this principle.

We make our own remedies ( from allopathic drugs, ayurvedic, edible nuts, siddha medicines etc) which follow this principle, but the method of preparation, may not follow what is told in Organon 5 , 6 or earlier. But all these self made remedies have worked wonders on many, because there is no violation of the basic principle what nature has laid down for the benefits of humanity. Infact, Arnica for example, has about 4000 listed symptoms in materia medica. And there are another 1000 symptoms that we can add. And this is precisely what Mr.Joe has proved.

Niether the provers are gods, nor the people who recorded the provings are!
Let us accept our knowledge is self-limiting….

Best
Garcot

I am copying a post from my own Website from Jani which arrived yesterday which gives you an insight into the patients response to the standard case taking protocol which left this patient annoyed and wondering what classical homeopathy was all about and whether it is designed to heal or to keep the patient in a state of suspended animation with orders to report progress weekly at the cost of another fee charged by the classical homeopath.

Jani

Submitted on 2014/07/20 at 11:44 AM
I have no doubt they will be convinced sir. (she refers to her 2 daughters)
It is not that they do not trust Joepathy—on the contrary, they are scared of the time (and perhaps the information dug up) by case taking in homeopathy.
One good example : A homeopath diagnosed me as a Platina personality. Personally, I have no issues with any classification but if you read Boerricke you know how terrorizing it can be.
One personality trait for Platina—nymphomania.
I can assure you that as a Hashimoto patient for over 25 years, any interest in that area is anathema for me. people lie about what they feel—-which is why I am citing a medical conditions!
But when you read Boericke, which is easily available online, it can be scary. My homeopath (actually my old one, currently I am under no treatment except Joepathy for eczema) takes the view that a Platina personality means a person able to attract people from the opposite sexes without even making an effort—–but you know it can be scary, if not offensive, if someone were to classify you with nyphomaniacs or call you suicidal when you are not, or at least feel you are not!
Anyway, case taking can also be very time consuming—my daughters hesitate to take that much time out, when they feel their “illnesses” are not that serious.
I wanted them to try, because like you, I am fascinated by what arnica can do—and the wonder why other practitioners are not looking at it more closely. I am your fan, sir, for just that reason.

If, as I hope you have read my post, you may now understand the reason why I persist in using my own therapy, JOEPATHY as I have ample proof that it CURES unlike the Classical Homeopathy that you prescribe, which invariably does not.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From fitness on 2014-07-21
Miriams, please continue posting your case updates here. I won’t spoil this post arguing with Joe. I have stated facts, he can continue believing what he does.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Evocationer on 2014-07-21
Fitness there is no point arguing. This same argument has been going on for years, it never changes and Mr De Livra never alters the direction or nature of his argument.

Homoeopathy has enemies of all sorts, and the only way we can genuinely oppose them is to continue and do the good work we do. Actions speak far louder than words.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-22
Fitness

Please note that I did not start any argument on this thread with you as it was you that dared to question the efficacy of my therapy.

I have given you concrete evidence of the efficacy of my therapy which is not based on the 2 hour long case taking procedure which a patient commented on only yesterday, which I copied in my last post.

I presume that you are too full of your own ‘classical’ therapy to accept that there are other more effective ways of curing an ailment even after you have concrete evidence that my “Joepathy” works in some wondrous manner. I consider that I am fortunate that I did not qualify in a Homeopathic college only to get brainwashed into believing like you, that a cure is only possible with classical homeopathy, when the facts are otherwise.

There is no question of “belief” in accepting cold hard facts as confirmed by the patients themselves of having being CURED by my Joepathy.
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Re: 5 month old with silent reflux From Joe De Livera on 2014-07-22
Evocationer

I have just noticed that you too have joined forces with Fitness in insisting that the ailment a patient presents can only be cured with the same ‘classical’ Homeopathy that you both have studied, as I too did about 40 years ago, perhaps before you were born.

I have in previous debates with you given you comprehensive chapter and verse, quoting from the statements of the patients themselves that it is not only through the use of classical homeopathy, complete with the 2 hour long questionnaire that the elusive ‘Single Remedy’ to treat the totality of the symptoms presented by the patient can be prescribed.

I have already informed you that I too did use this same protocol 40 years ago when I was first fascinated by Homeopathy and studied it in my free time as I was and am involved in another profession but decided to investigate this Science after having been cured of my weekly colds.

After the Tsunami hit Sri Lanka in 2004 I was more involved in Homeopathy as I was approached by Homeopaths Without Borders to pave the way to establish facilities in the areas which were affected and it was then that I met Luc who was instrumental in changing my use of dry pellets into using the Wet dose which term I authored with his assent. We did have many interesting arguments with each other as I had at that time discovered the incredible benefits of Arnica as a general tonic but he refused to be swayed by my discovery and like so many classical homeopaths warned me of the danger of using any remedy on a daily basis.

You may like to read his own account on his experience in Sri Lanka on:
http://www.drluc.com/homepath-srilanka.htm

I am now 85 years of age and I am proud to state that I have disproved the classical concept that predicts the danger of taking Arnica 30c daily and have many followers throughout the world who have followed my example.

Here in Sri Lanka I have about 15 friends who at various times in the past have followed my example and are taking Arnica 30 in the Wet dose nightly. It is remarkable how when we meet, we notice that we all seem to have been excused the ravages of time and the normal signs of the advancing years as at 85 (I will be 86 next October), I have often been mistaken for one 20 years younger as I do not have any wrinkles on my skin although my hair is completely grey. My mind is clear and I do still drive to work daily although I leave office around 3.30 to avoid the heavy traffic in Colombo.

I do not take any allopathic drugs whatever and I believe that this is one reason why I do not present any medical problems today. You may like to visit:
The Pill Popping Culture

Home

and read my thoughts on how drugs can ruin the health of an otherwise healthy person. I must add that I spend an hour almost daily on exercise which I do on my True Prone Exercise Cycle listening to music on my iPad Air.

I do not have any aches or pains in my body whatever and annual blood tests prove that I do not have Diabetes and my Cholesterol and Triglyceride levels are the envy of people who are half my age. This is the report I get from my friends who meet me regularly to have their bottles of water they usually bring with them, to be activated with Arnica 30.

This is no idle report made with the intention of converting you or Fitness about the efficacy of my Joepathy but I am doing so in the hope that both of you, who profess to be classical homeopaths, do desist in criticizing me and my Joepathy in future as I have proved beyond doubt that my therapy works.

I do not criticize your pitiful efforts to prescribe your classically generated therapy to unsuspecting patients whom you treat sometimes for weeks on end prescribing one remedy to be followed by another, with no cure. Some of your patients have presented their cases to me on my website and you can verify for yourself how many have been CURED.

The least that I can expect is that you reciprocate my attitude, to NOT criticize me in your daily visits to this ABC. Many others have done so in the past 12 years on this and other Homeopathic Forums and have either faded away but Gavini Murthy who was one of my most belligerent critics finally stated:

“You must have observed that I am not the die hard classical homeopath any more. I now appreciate that homeopathic medicines are capable of curing even when used in the non classical way. ”

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/231958/

As I have stated in another post to you, Dr Prasanta Banerji has also discovered independent of me, that the same “This for That” therapy I use and prescribe is more effective in comparison to the classical homeopathy he used in the past.

I remember reading your statement that his rate of cure was below 20% and I would like to categorically state that your statement is not true as you can verify for yourself. I consider it unfair on your part to distort facts merely to delude visitors to this ABC who may not be able to verify the veracity of your statement.

I cannot resist an afterthought………….

I feel that the Death of Homeopathy which is currently being promoted in the UK and the US and perhaps in Australia by Big Pharma, is largely due to the attitude that you classical homeopaths promote as your therapy does not result in the same rate of cures that the therapy prescribed by Dr Banerji and me, do. The patient is not interested in the methodology used to generate the remedy as any patient wishes to be CURED ASAP.

The hocus-pocus that you classical homeopaths display in treating a patient, starting with the 2 hour long case taking process to elicit that elusive “Single remedy to treat the totality of the Symptoms presented by the patient”, is in my considered opinion the root cause of this “Death of Homeopathy” Syndrome. I believe that it is in your hands to change this attitude and the sooner that you and other classical homeopaths accept this simple fact and take action to do so, the better it will be to allay the general attitude to avoid Homeopathy, as the patient needs to be cured and it is your duty to use whatever means is at your disposal, to do so.

I shall not be surprised if you attack me again as you have done in the past on the basis that my statements are the rantings of an old man who needs to be converted to your own classical homeopathy. I would like to reassure you that they are based on my observations over almost half a Century during which I have witnessed this Death of Homeopathy which has been woven into a mysterious web of intrigue, woven by classical homeopaths on the basis of their studies in colleges, where they are brainwashed into believing that a CURE of an ailment can only occur within the strict classical protocol.

I have proved otherwise in common with Dr Prasanta Banerji who is a qualified Homeopath unlike me, and has shown the guts to defy the tenets of classical homeopathy and use my “This for That” approach to Homeopathic Healing.

It is a matter of interest that Dr Banerji who is reputed to treat 1500 patient on a daily basis in his Homeopathic Hospital and I do not charge any fees to treat patients. I do so purely for the deep satisfaction I derive from healing suffering humanity and especially babies whose mothers occupy my time and attention right now to help them to overcome Baby GERD.

I do wonder if this common bond or attitude has anything to commend it.