Joe De Livera

Joepathy comes of age
March 10 2008
It is possible that the World Community is taking note of my constant reference to the weakness of classical system generally practiced by those who have qualified in Homeopathy. I was agreeably surprised to note that there are now 234 listings on Google under “Joepathy”. This word was first picked up by Google about 2 years ago when there were just 4 listings but the fact that there are 234 listings today can perhaps indicate that the International community who surf the web have finally taken notice of the controversy that the classical fraternity created for themselves by openly criticizing me on the many Forums that I used to visit up to about 2 years ago when I joined this forum on an exclusive basis. I do not think that in challenging almost every post that I made, they ever dreamt that they would be opening up a virtual Pandora’s box in the use of Non Classical homeopathy which seems to me to be gaining strength day by day. I have often stated that the interest of the patient always comes first. It is not the method used, classical or Joepathy that counts. It is the eventual cure of an ailment that a patient presents that must be paramount in mind of the consultant homeopath who is in duty bound to identify the therapy to ensure that the ailment is cured as quickly as is possible. Unfortunately the single remedy method used in classical homeopathy often fall far short of attaining this goal and it is the patient who pays the price in unnecessary suffering.

At first I did not respond to the many barbed attacks I was receiving on a daily basis in almost every post that I made on the forums starting about 4 years ago and ignored them. When however I discovered that a concerted attempt was being made on 3 classical forums to silence me, purely because I refused to abide by the classical case taking procedure that was laid down as the sine qua non of handling a case, I decided to take these attacks which in some cases were downright mean and vulgar, head on. This defense did take its toll on my time as I am not a professional homeopath and I am largely self taught not only in Homeopathy but also in other spheres of knowledge. Many are also aware that I use my skill in helping anyone who seeks my assistance completely free of charge here in Sri Lanka where I live. The countering of these attacks on the forums invariably took a toll of my time which I had to divide between my official functions as the CEO of a very old family owned business in Sri Lanka and my love of healing by Homeopathy and I discovered that I was spending far more time in my defense than the time I spent in advising patients on the forums. However I felt that I was using my time usefully in exposing the hollowness and subterfuge in the classical method which I openly labelled just another ruse on the part of the classical prescriber to ensure that the suffering patient was compelled to return time and time again to be given another single remedy to treat the totality of the symptoms that he presented. And these recurrent visits do not come cheap. The patient in the meanwhile continues to suffer so very unnecessarily for weeks and sometimes even years, and there are some patients even on this forum who will testify to this matter.

The patient may be suffering from a common ailment like Eczema or Asthma or GERD and the remedy that is uaually prescribed by the classical homeopath would be far off course to help the patient as the identification of that single remedy by him/her was like finding the proverbial needle in a haystack. The classical homeopath had no option but to conform to this elusive method as otherwise he ran the risk of losing his license to practice. It is no wonder that the single classical remedy was far off track and the patient continued to suffer so very unnecessarily and was compelled to return to his classical homeopath for further investigation and treatment.

It is possible that it was my open attitude in exposing the drawback of the classical system that first attracted interest of the WWW and when the word Joepathy was coined at first in a derisive manner by a member, it seems to epitomize the therapy that I promoted which members could follow in the posts where I had advised on the many threads on the forums. It was the obvious success of my direct “this for that” therapy that seems to have struck a chord among surfers on the web and I am indeed humbled that I have been able to raise some awareness among the suffering public who would otherwise have been compelled to succumb to the step motherly therapy that classical homeopaths invariably dish out to their patients.

It is my hope that both patients and classical homeopaths will heed my call for a more rational attitude to Homeopathy which is a science that must not be allowed to “Bleed to death” as Manish Bhatia of Hpathy very succinctly phrased his article which he circulated to his membership of readers of his Ezine. When a patient consults a doctor or a homeopath he expects to be cured ASAP and it is our duty to ensure that the great benefits that can result from the rational use of Homeopathic remedies are passed on in the same rational manner that I have promoted which is now accepted internationally as Joepathy.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/219411/

Joepathy can treat Hemophilia successfully.

From Joe De Liveraon 2010-03-150 replies844 views

I would like to share my experience in the treatment of 2 patients (Boys one 9 years old and the other 16 years old) who were diagnosed as Hemophiliacs by their doctors and who do not have to be rushed to hospital today as their parents used to do originally. They are now using my Joepathy therapy to treat this disease Hemophilia which they inherited from their mother for which there is no known cure in Medicine or in Homeopathy. This disease can only be controlled but not cured by Homeopathy but an expensive drug Hemofil M is used to treat this disease in Sri Lanka where it is given IV in the government hospitals free of any charge. It is hoped that a breakthrough will soon be made in Medicine and there is a possibility that this may be achieved by altering the Genes which hopefully will cure this disease.

In the meanwhile I have perfected a simple therapy that will eliminate the anxiety that the parents have to suffer from every time their son has a cut or a bruise which originally had to be treated in a hospital but can now be treated with Arnica 6c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you take a capful which is the dose. Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before a capful of the bottle is sipped as directed.

I have detailed the Joepathy which I prescribed since 2006 which I have since refined today to the use of just 2 remedies Arnica 6c and Lachesis 200 in the Dry dose pellets which need only be used on a SOS basis in the event of a deep cut or wound. The parents of the two boys have informed me that they have observed that Lachesis 200 is not essential today as the Arnica 6c in the Wet dose alone can control the bleeding both internal and external in the event of a cut which is bleeding or a bruise where the skin is not broken which usually results in Hemotoma of the joint and pain.

It is my hope that other Homeopaths will also consider using this simple protocol which I have perfected which 2 patients are using successfully today. Please record your patient’s response if you prescribe this remedy, on this Forum.

My post dated May 11 2006 on the ABC

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/62262/
May 11 2006

I have been treating a 10 year old boy whom I have known as a baby whose parents brought him to me when he was around 6 months old with blueish-green marks on his arms and legs. I I suspected Hemophilia but did not wish to take the responsibility of diagnosing his ailment and sent the parents to the government Pediatric Hospital which is located about 200 meters from my residence. The baby was diagnosed as a Hemophiliac by the physicians and as he grew in years he was often warded in the hospital after any bleeding injury where he was invariably treated with IV drips of Hemofil M which the mother informed me cost the hospital over $200 per dose but was given free to patients in Sri Lanka from all government hospitals. As the child grew he developed a horror of hospitals and would be traumatized every time he was taken to hospital where he would be warded for about 3 days after every bleeding injury.

The parents appealed to me for help with my Homeopathy and I gave the parents Lachesis 200 to be used SOS whenever the boy was injured and was bleeding and Calc Phos 6x to be taken twice daily. The bleeding stopped within about 20 minutes after Lachesis but internal bleeding or hematoma when occurred whenever he fell down and bumped his joints did not respond till I gave him Arnica 30 in the dry pellets taken 3 times daily. The mother reported that the pellets reduced the blue hematoma which was usually accompanied with swelling of the joint causing considerable pain. I stopped the Calc Phos as it did not seem to help much but instructed the mother to give the boy Arnica 30 in the Wet Dose twice daily. I also instructed her to increase the frequency of the dosage whenever the boy suffered from any internal injury resulting in a hematoma.

I was surprised to discover that the boy seemed not to present a hematoma after any bump when he was under the new Arnica therapy taken twice daily and the mother also reported that a minor cut did not seem to bleed as much as it did before the boy was on the daily doses of Arnica. Deeper cuts did bleed and 4 pellets of Lachesis 200 taken sublingually always stopped the bleeding.

I am sharing this information with members as it is possible that someone may present Hemophila, the treatment of which is not usually known to Homeopaths.

A WOMAN RECOUNTS HER HEART ATTACK

‘I had a heart attack at about 10:30PM with NO prior exertion, NO prior emotional trauma that one would suspect might have brought it on. I was sitting all snugly & warm on a cold evening, with my purring cat in my lap, reading an interesting story my friend ha d sent me, and actually thinking, ‘A-A-h, this is the life, all cozy and warm in my soft, cushy Lazy Boy with my feet propped up.

A moment later, I felt that awful sensation of indigestion, when you’ve been in a hurry and grabbed a bite of sandwich and washed it down with a dash of water, and that hurried bite seems to feel like you’ve swallowed a golf ball going down the esophagus in slow motion and it is most uncomfortable. You realize you shouldn’t have gulped it down so fast and needed to chew it more thoroughly and this time drink a glass of water to hasten its progress down to the stomach. This was my initial sensation–the only trouble was that I hadn’t taken a bite of anything since about 5:00p.m.

After it seemed to subside, the next sensation was like little squeezing motions that seemed to be racing up my SPINE (hind-sight, it was probably my aorta spasms), gaining speed as they continued racing up and under my sternum (breast bone, where one presses rhythmically when administering CPR).

This fascinating process continued on into my throat and branched out into both jaws. ‘AHA!! NOW I stopped puzzling about what was happening — we all have read and/or heard about pain in the jaws being one of the signals of an MI happening, haven’t we? I said aloud to myself and the cat, Dear God, I think I’m having a heart attack!

I lowered the foot rest dumping the cat from my lap, started to take a step and fell on the floor instead. I thought to myself, If this is a heart attack, I shouldn’t be walking into the next room where the phone is or anywhere else… but, on the other hand, if I don’t, nobody will know that I need help, and if I wait any longer I may not be able to get up in a moment.

I pulled myself up with the arms of the chair, walked slowly into the next room and dialed the Paramedics… I told her I thought I was having a heart attack due to the pressure building under the sternum and radiating int o my jaws. I didn’t feel hysterical or afraid, just stating the facts. She said she was sending the Paramedics over immediately, asked if the front door was near to me, and if so, to un-bolt the door and then lie down on the floor where they could see me when they came in.

I unlocked the door and then lay down on the floor as instructed and lost consciousness, as I don’t remember the medics coming in, their examination, lifting me onto a gurney or getting me into their ambulance, or hearing the call they made to St. Jude ER on the way, but I did briefly awaken when we arrived and saw that the radiologist was already there in his surgical blues and cap, helping the medics pull my stretcher out of the ambulance. He was b ending over me asking questions (probably something like ‘Have you taken any medications?’) but I couldn’t make my mind interpret what he was saying, or form an answer, and nodded off again, not waking up until the Cardiologist and partner had already threaded the teeny angiogram balloon up my femoral artery into the aorta and into my heart where they installed 2 side by side stints to hold open my right coronary artery.
I know it sounds like all my thinking and actions at home must have taken at least 20-30 minutes before calling the paramedics, but actually it took perhaps 4-5 minutes before the call, and both the fire station and St. Jude are only minutes away from my home, and my Cardiologist was already to go to the OR in his scrubs and get going on restarting my heart (which had stopped somewhere between my arrival and the procedure) and installing the stints.
Why have I written all of this to you with so much detail? Because I want all of you who are so important in my life to know what I learned first hand.
1. Be aware that something very different is happening in your body, not the usual men’s symptoms but inexplicable things happening (until my sternum and jaws got into the act). It is said that many more women than men die of their first (and last) MI because they didn’t know they were having one and commonly mistake it as indigest ion, take some Maalox or other anti-heartburn preparation and go to bed, hoping they’ll feel better in the morning when they wake up… which doesn’t happen. My female friends, your symptoms might not be exactly like mine, so I advise you to call the Paramedics if ANYTHING is unpleasantly happening that you’ve not felt before. It is better to have a ‘false alarm’ visitation than to risk your life guessing what it might be!
2. Note that I said ‘Call the Paramedics.’ And if you can take an aspirin. Ladies, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE!
Do NOT try to drive yourself to the ER – you are a hazard to others on the road.
Do NOT have your panicked husband who will be speeding and looking anxiously at what’s happening with you instead of the road.
Do NOT call your doctor — he doesn’t know where you live and if it’s at night you won’t reach him anyway, and if it’s daytime, his assistants (or answering service) will tell you to call the Paramedics. He doesn’t carry the equipment in his car that you need to be saved! The Paramedics do, principally OXYGEN that you need ASAP. Your Dr will be notified later.
3. Don’t assume it couldn’t be a heart attack because you have a normal cholesterol count. Research has discovered that a cholesterol elevate d reading is rarely the cause of an MI (unless it’s unbelievably high and/or accompanied by high blood pressure). MIs are usually caused by long-term stress and inflammation in the body, which dumps all sorts of deadly hormones into your system to sludge things up in there. Pain in the jaw can wake you from a sound sleep. Let’s be careful and be aware. The more we know the better chance we could survive.

I am copying an article on Cancer by Dr Rick Cantrell who suffers from Cancer himself which was identified about 10 months ago and he recounts his own experience in living with Cancer. The link to his article is below:

http://onesarmiento.posterous.com/rick-cantrell-phd-md-psyd-on-cancer
July 14, 2011
Rick Cantrell, PhD, MD, PsyD on Cancer

This is an article that should be sent to anyone important in your life.
I posted this article, which may have some provoking thoughts:
Rick Cantrell, PhD, MD, PsyD

The below is absolutely 100% true and as a doctor I have been telling people this for 15 years now. No one wants to listen. Folks need to wake up. Cancer treatment is about making money. It is a 120 billion dollar a year industry in the United States alone and estimated to be a 600 billion dollar a year industry worldwide.

A successful cancer case according to the American Cancer Society and the American College of Oncology and Hematology means that the person survives for 5 years. Both the American Cancer Society and the American College of Oncology and Hematology admit that a person is likely to survive cancer for 7 to 10 years even if they do absolutely NOTHING. Of course, only the doctors get those magazines – not you, the cancer patient.

Alternative medicine’s track record of curing cancer is 10 times higher than that of conventional medicine. Note that I say CURE.

Remember another thing. A TUMOR is just a symptom. It is not the cause of cancer.

Science is cause and effect. Remove the cause and the effect disappears.

I am in my third battle with cancer right now. I have not done any chemotherapy or radiation or surgery for any of my bouts with cancer. I survived leukemia, I survived NonHodgkinsLymphoma and now I have Glioblastoma which is supposedly an incurable form of brain cancer. I was given two months to live 5 months ago.

I have been using Chinese herbs, high doses of vitamin C, acupuncture, chiropractic, homeopathy and nutritional changes. Yes, at first it got worse. It had metastasized to my lymph nodes, my lungs and my bones. As of this week, I am happy to say that there is no evidence now of any cancer in my lymph system or my bones. I had 6 tumors in my lungs, now there are only two. The tumors in my brain have shrunken tremendously. I never did any of their chemo, radiation or surgery.

Here is a very interesting statistic that you can only have access to by being a doctor. Every year more than 1,000 doctor oncologists (cancer doctors) are diagnosed with cancer. Less than 10% of them choose to do the treatment that they have been giving to their patients. Sort of like the fact that less than 25% of all pediatricians vaccinate their own children because of the fact that the risk of sudden death or serious side effects from the vaccination is higher than the risk of catching the disease one is being vaccinated for. This is not bullshit, people – it is truth.

Medicine is about money, not about your health; and the system traps people, especially the elderly, disabled and poor, into a deadly treatment regime that puts them in an early grave. Meanwhile, all the jet set billionaires are flying off to Europe and paying big bucks for alternative treatments and getting cured.

Does alternative medicine work all the time? No. Of course, not. Nothing works all the time. But there is a reason for that. You don’t die until it’s your time to die. Nothing can make you live longer than that time.

However, quality of life comes into play. Those cancer patients who use alternative therapies for their cancer, yet still die from the illness, suffer in a much higher quality of life. They die able to spend time with their families and even recognize their family members. They don’t become emaciated like those who do chemotherapy or radiation do and rarely is a person who goes under the treatment of chemotherapy able to
recognize anyone for the last few days of their lives. Their bodies become ravaged to the point that you can’t even recognize them either. They suffer at a much much higher rate and they have one let down after  another as doctors tell them, ahhh – it’s looking good, only to tell them on the next visit it’s looking worse, you need more chemo and radiation.

What is criminal about this is that YOUR DOCTORS KNOW THIS SHIT.

I took an oath as a physician. I have always followed it. That has certainly not made me successful financially as a doctor because I have consistently refused to go along with conventional medicine’s bullshit.

Read the below carefully. It may indeed make a difference in your life.

AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY
(‘TRY’, BEING THE KEY WORD) TO ELIMINATE CANCER, JOHNS HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY.

Cancer Update from Johns Hopkins :

1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests until they have multiplied to a few billion. When doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells because they have not reached the detectable size.

2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times in a person’s lifetime

3. When the person’s immune system is strong the cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from multiplying and forming tumors.

4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person has nutritional deficiencies. These could be due to genetic, but also to environmental, food and lifestyle factors.

5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies, changing diet to eat more adequately and healthy, 4-5 times/day and by including supplements will strengthen the immune system.

6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy cells in the bone marrow, gastrointestinal tract etc, and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys, heart, lungs etc.

7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns, scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs.

8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation will often reduce tumor size. However, prolonged use of chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor destruction.

9. When the body has too much toxic burden from chemotherapy and radiation, the immune system is either compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb to various kinds of infections and complications.

10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells to mutate and become resistant and difficult to destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread to other sites.

11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the cancer cells by not feeding it with the foods it needs to multiply.

*CANCER CELLS FEED ON:-

A. Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc. are made with Aspartame and it is harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka honey or molasses, but only in very small amounts. Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in color. Better alternative is Bragg’s aminos or sea salt.

B. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with unsweetened soy milk, cancer cells are being starved.

C. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish, and a little other meat, like chicken. Meat also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to people with cancer.

D. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds, nuts and some fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment.

About 20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).
E. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has cancer fighting properties. Water-best to drink purified water, or Kangen water, filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it.

12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines becomes putrefied and leads to more toxic buildup.

13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells and allows the body’s killer cells to destroy the cancer cells.

14. Some supplements build up the immune system IP6, Flor-ssence, Essiac, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals, EFAs etc.) to enable the body’s own killer cells to destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body’s normal method of disposing of damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.

15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit. A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor. Anger, un-forgiveness and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.

16. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising
daily and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular
level Oxygen therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells.

1. No plastic containers in micro.

2. No water bottles in freezer.

3. No plastic wrap in microwave..

Johns Hopkins has recently sent this out in its newsletters. This information is being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Centeras well. Dioxin chemicals cause cancer, especially breast cancer. Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don’t freeze your plastic bottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic. Recently, Dr Edward Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital , was on a TV program to explain this health hazard.
He talked about dioxins and how bad they are for us. He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic containers. This especially applies to foods that contain fat. He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body. Instead, he recommends using glass, such as CorningWare, Pyrex or ceramic containers for heating food. You get the same results, only without the dioxin. So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed from the container and heated in something else. Paper isn’t bad but you don’t know what is in the paper. It’s just safer to use tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc. He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to
paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons. Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead.

I would like to add that Dr Cynthia Jayasuriya is also a survivor of Cancer which was first identified 9 years ago and she cured herself after a remission of 7 years, by eating Manioc regularly in her diet.

Please visit the link below for more information on her CURE:

CURE FOR CANCER —- First person account by Dr Cynthia Jayasuriya

I am copying below some posts from the ABC Homeopathy Forum which records the case of Robert Ray who suffered from 3 strokes in 2002 which affected his ability to walk without assistance.

He posted his case on the ABC and I prescribed Arnica 30c in the Wet dose and the exchange of posts are recorded below:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/228108/

“joepathy” works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From jorbri1513on 2010-05-2516 replies1078 views*WARNING, THIS IS A LONG POST*
*HOWEVER IT IS WORTH READING*

I posted this information regarding my situation on 4/17/2010. I posted to all doctors and Joe De livera was the only person to respond.

“I survived a right side stroke in September 2002 (caused by high blood pressure, which is under control with diet exercise and vitamins). When I was treated in the hospital it was discovered that I had 2 small strokes prior to the one in 2002. (exact dates could not be determined). Since that time I have severe spasticity and weakness in the leg, hip and glute area and very tight groin muscles. I had weakness in the right arm and hand, but I was able to correct it with exercise.
I have difficulty walking (I use a cane), kneeling, climbing stairs, rising from a seated position and bending (as if to pick up something)
The right arm becomes spastic while walking.
I have been trying to strengthen with resistance training, the right side leg and hip muscles to help with walking and weight transfer motions while walking. When I exercise the muscles feel stronger and movement is better, however after the session and subsequent cooling down period,I am right back to square one with severe spasticity,(weakness subsides for awhile) an abnormal gait, inability to take a full step (I use a cane), tight groin muscles and muscle pains (mostly aches and occasional cramps in hamstrings) and problems rising from a seated position. Can you advise on how to deal with the lingering spasticity and pain.”

Since approximately 1999 when I suspect that I had the first minor stroke I had been plagued with severely painful leg and hip muscles 24 hours a day. I had an abnormal gait (known as hike hip) due to the minor stroke.

I had no idea what was happening and went to my “Doctor”. He advised me that I had arthritis. He prescribed some anti inflammatory medicine.

After the second minor stroke in 2000 I experienced more difficulty walking and could barely bend over. I went back to my “Doctor” and received the same diagnosis and medication at a stronger dose.

In September of 2002 I had the third stroke which kept me in the hospital for 30 days. The diagnosis was the stroke was caused by high blood pressure. I was given physical therapy (and high blood pressure medication) in the hospital and continued outpatient therapy for another month after discharge.

For the next 8 YEARS I suffered from EXTREME spasticity on the right side arm and leg. I have tried acupuncture, acupressure, massage therapy, magnet therapy and just about any treatment recommended to try and get relief.

On April 17 2010, I posted the message at the beginning of this forum. Joe De livera responded and recommended his staple remedy ARNICA 30c in the wet dose. Within 5 days exactly (believe me I was counting them) I felt great relief. No pain, tight muscles relaxed, and the spasticity was 95%relieved.

I could not believe how good I felt and I kept waiting for the pain to come back. IT HAS NOT RETURNED AS OF THIS POSTING! I have continued to feel relief and do not have anymore spasticity and flexibility is returning.

My mobility has increased 80%. Prior to Joe’s treatment I could not walk 10 feet without stopping because of the pain. I have been able to go shopping (which I couldn’t do before. I would drive to the store and my son would go inside and shop.)

I have been able to exercise more vigorously which is helping me to recover muscle strength which is important. Prior to Joe’s treatment if I exercised or “hobbled” a long distance I would be incapacitated for at least 2 days. When I say incapacitated I mean flat on my back and if I did stand I need 2 canes for support.

All of this has stopped since working with “JOEPATHY”
and I do not see it returning. I was so impressed with the progress I was making I turned to “JOEPATHY” for other ailments I was experiencing. (Yeah, I WAS a walking train wreck).

I developed gynecomastia (male breasts) as a result of one of the blood pressure medications I was taking (spironolactone). I contacted Joe and he recommended Nat Phos 6x which helped me loose weight, I went from 205 pounds to 195 and counting (I am over 6ft tall).

The gynecomastia has been cut in half and is still going down. If you are reading this and are a man I don’t have to tell you how relieved I was not to have “BREASTS!”.

I suffered from a peri-rectal cyst in 2009 which recurred this year. I again turned to the originator of “JOEPATHY”
and he recommended silicea 6x and ferr phos 6x in addition to arnica. Guess what, NO MORE CYST!!

I’ve read negative posts regarding “JOEPATHY” and everyone is entitled to their opinion. However if you want fact I can attest to the truth that “JOEPATHY” WORKS!!!! I will continue to follow the treatment laid out by Joe De livera because it WORKS!!!!

If there is any interest the original and subsequent posts can be found at http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/223620/

I am a believer and thank Joe for studying and thinking outside the box to help me with my problems. In a world where people are becoming more selfish and narcissistic it is wonderful to find someone a selfless and people oriented as Joe De livera.

THANK YOU JOE!!

Regards,
Robert W. Ray

re: “joepathy” works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!From dragonfly1976 on 2010-05-25Wow! that’s great news.

Good health to you.

re: “joepathy” works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!From Joe De Livera on 2010-05-26To Robert

Thank you for confirming the improvement in your status of health on this thread.

It is precisely this form of recording your personal experience that will prove to readers and more especially to those who delight in vilifying me, that my Joepathy has helped you in a manner that all the drugs and other therapy you have used for the last 8 + Years, have not done. The improvement in your health in the short period of 3 weeks is  in itself monumental

re: “joepathy” works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!From girilal on 2010-05-28
When it comes to treatment, Joe De Livera has Midas touch.

re: “joepathy” works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!From Joe De Livera on 2010-09-06

To Robert

It is now over 4 months since you last reported that you were 80% cured of your symptoms which you suffered after your first stroke in 2002.

“My mobility has increased 80%. Prior to Joe’s treatment I could not walk 10 feet without stopping because of the pain. I have been able to go shopping (which I couldn’t do before. I would drive to the store and my son would go inside and shop.) ”

I would like to have your latest report on your present condition.

re: “joepathy” works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!From jorbri1513 on 2010-09-08
Hi Joe,

I am pleased to report that my condition continues to improve daily. I have continued to show improvement on the spasticity and I would assess my level of improvement at about 90%. I will be working with a PT (physical therapist) to help with strength and mobility (to ensure I’m doing the correct exercise). As far as homeopathically I am still improving and I still say JOEPATHY WORKS!!!

Regards,
Robert

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/304209/1

Re: Treating Gynecomastia with JoepathyFrom brijobob on 2011-11-11

Hi Joe,

I read your email and I have to thank you and joepathy “TREMENDOUSLY”.

I live in the Pacific Northwest and thanks to your treatment and advice I have been able to resume my career as a Computer consultant.

I am currently working four days a week in St. Louis MO. and returning home on Thursday and flying back on Sunday for my 4 day stint all at company expense with a salary of $125,000.00 per year.

None of this would be possible without your treatment and guidance. I have continued to use Arnica 30c to control my blood pressure which I maintain at 125/70 and I use Arnicated oil to relax my muscles after
workouts.

Currently my workouts are 2 1/2 to 3 hours in duration and very intense.

None of this would have been possible without your help.

My gynecomastia has been completely eradicated with the help of Nat Phos 6x to help burn the fat and turn what was a B cup bra size breast into a chiseled chest on a 55 year old man.

With your therapy I was able to train intensely and bring my waist down from 42 inches to 34 inches.

I am proud to announce that I am walking normally again and looking forward to running soon.

You are truly a miracle worker and have my complete confidence.

I had to create a new login as Nawaz keeps having me blocked because I took umbrage with him attacking me for using your therapy.

You can read the last 2 pages of this post where he attacks me for using your therapy then attacks my “WIFE”

http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/252975/5

Nawaz advised me to stop using Arnica for HBP and I foolishly listened and saw my BP spike. This was really troubling to me since my HBP was the cause of the stroke and the residual damage which you helped me cure.

I returned to your therapy and have been fine since.

Exercise is “ESSENTIAL” to burning fat and with the addition of Nat Phos 6c it burns fat faster.

In weight training/loss there is no such thing as spot reduction so Nat Phos 6c helped me burn fat on all areas of my body.

I am sure Nawaz will try to block this user account also.

To the person requesting the info on “Joepathy” for gynecomastia all I can tell you is that Joe’s advise to me was spot on and has helped me return to a “NORMAL” life when I thought I was doomed to a life of immobility and gynecomastia.

My gynecomastia was an embarrassment to me and left me not wanting to take off my shirt. I didn’t want to look in the mirror either.

NO MORE. As I stated previously I now have a chiseled chest and an 8 pack abdomen.

None of this would have been possible without JOEPATHY and I tried many other methods of ridding myself of my ailments but Joe’s worked.

I have told many people that I encounter who suffer from HBP, Diabetes, Male Pattern baldness, and Gynecomastia (I met several men in the gym with gynecomastia) his therapy has helped them also.

I forgot to mention that Arnica started hair growing on my pate where it had fallen out over 20 years ago.
My son calls me a “chia pet”
if you are familiar with the chia pet products you can appreciate the humor in this.

KUDOS JOE AND MUCH LOVE FROM A CURED AND HAPPY PATIENT!!

Regards,
Robert

Re: Joepathy for gynecomastiaFrom Joe De Livera on 2011-11-11

Hi Robert

Thank you for your post and I must admit that I am delighted after reading it. I am so very glad that you have got back to work and that you commute weekly between the West coast and St Louis. This town is of some significance to me as I had a friend of mine, a veteran pilot who was working in Sri Lanka to purchase a 10 year old Cessna 177 which I had refurbished with a brand new engine before it was flown all the way to Sri Lanka in 1979. I used it to commute between my fishing project which is about 225 miles north of Colombo and enjoyed every moment I was up in the air. I sold the aircraft to an Air Lanka pilot about 15 years  ago and it is not airworthy anymore today and is at rest in a hangar in Ratmalana airport a few miles south of Colombo.

I am happy that the improvement in your condition after your stroke has continued and you can be considered to be normal today. It is personal accounts like yours that prove that there is indeed ‘method in my madness’ as although I am not qualified in Homeopathy nor in medicine, the fact remains that I have been successful in helping thousands of patients in the past 8 years since I first joined the Homeopathic Forums while at home I have been helping many patients which I do completely free of charge in my free time. As you are aware, I  do not abide by the classical rules but it is the proof of the pudding that matters and your case is one which no other homeopath would have dared to advise on and it would be safe to state that you are cured.

I note with some concern that you state:

“Currently my workouts are 2 1/2 to 3 hours in duration and very intense. ”

This can be considered as overkill in your case, and you are advised to not tax your body to that extreme level but to maintain a comfortable level of about an hour of exercise daily which will lift your Heart BPM to a maximum of 110 which I consider acceptable for one who had suffered from 3 strokes and is also 55 years of age. I would not advice to consider running as this is another ball game entirely.

You may like to know that I have maintained a 5-6 day weekly routine for over the last 50 years of walking for 15 minutes with a 5lb weight in each hand followed by 30 minutes of cycling with sufficient pressure on the pedals to make me sweat in 10 minutes while lifting my BPM to 100-110.

The idea is to exercise regularly without making up for lost time like you seem to be doing today. I must mention here that the very fact that you have survived the extreme routine you reported proves that you are 99% cured but it is just as well not to push it.

You state:
“In weight training/loss there is no such thing as spot reduction so Nat Phos 6c helped me burn fat on all areas of my body. ”

I am interested in your statement and would appreciate your confirmation that you do use the Nat Phos 6c and not the 6x that I have recommended to reduce weight.

Your observation about the growth of your hair is also of interest and I would recommend the use of Arnica Q in an emulsion with Olive Oil on the scalp hair roots as this has been used by hundreds of patients including myself and this virtually guarantees a good head of hair even at my advanced age.

Keep up the good work Robert but do not push it.

Joe

Re: Joepathy for gynecomastiaFrom brijobob on 2011-11-11

Hi Joe,

First let me apologize, I use Nat Phos 6X not 6C. I just Returned from St. Louis last night and after checking my email I sat down to respond to you after the long flight and an even longer week.

Badshah – You asked “Robert, did you experience defecation problems with Nat Phos 6X?”

No, my experience was the opposite. Nat Phos 6X “AIDED” in my daily elimination.

At one point I became concerned that my system would become dependent on it, but that never happened.

I have not used Nat Phos 6x since Joe helped me completely eradicate my gynecomastia.

Joe not to worry about my workout duration or intensity.
Many thanks for your concern though.

I passed the acute phase of recovery a long time ago.

I am no stranger to this type of exercise and rehabilitation.
I have been exercising and studying the effects of exercise on the body since my tender age of 15.

The reason that the workouts are so long is because I do a total body workout. If I miss a muscle group I create an imbalance and my body lets me feel it immediately after I recover from the workout.

As I’m sure you are well aware, muscle growth occurs in the rest phase and I don’t have time to isolate muscle groups since I returned to work.

My body has responded “MAGNIFICENTLY” with the help of Arnica 30c to promote the flow of blood to the muscle groups while recovering.
I don’t know if I mentioned that I also massage the leg muscles with Arnica oil which I found on this site.

You are right in one thing it has been a long time between significant exercise and just trying to maintain myself, but I’m not trying to make up for lost time.

I was using coconut oil and Arnica Q, I read another thread you had with a forum poster on this subject and when I realized this would aid the Arnica 30c I was taking orally I added it to my daily grooming. I didn’t have any olive oil so I used coconut oil.I’ll switch over and see if there is any difference but I am getting great results with the coconut oil.

As for being a “QUALIFIED” homeopath, WHAT is that if not someone with proven results?

Who “QUALIFIED THE QUALIFIERS?”.

Keep up your “GOOD” works Joe.

Regards,
Robert

Re: Joepathy for gynecomastiaFrom Joe De Livera on 2011-11-13

Hi Robert

Thank you for taking on this case which deserves your help as you are advising from your own experience which I must admit is awe inspiring from a curative angle when taken in the context of what you suffered for 8 years and which was resolved very quickly in a few weeks by the Arnica 30c I prescribed in the Wet dose.

I am however concerned on your insistence on intense workouts each of 3 hours duration and I would like to know how often you indulge in them. I do hope that you do them in the Gym where others can help you in any eventuality.

I am surprised to note that David Kempson who usually bugs me on my posts has not commented on the record of your cure and I wonder if he has read this exchange of posts which can give him some food for thought that it is not only his own brand of ‘classical homeopathy’ that can help a patient but my Joepathy too can perhaps even surpass his own concept of Homeopathy based on the Simila Similibus Curantur theory.

I notice that he likes to emphasize the false idea that it is only Hahnemann’s classical homeopathy as contained in the Organon that can cure anyone.

I have always maintained that if he was alive today he may have changed over to Joepathy (This for That) therapy after reading accounts like your own cure.

Re: Joepathy for gynecomastiaFrom Joe De Livera on 2011-11-14

To David

I was wondering if and when you will comment on Robert Ray’s case as you seemed strangely silent these past few days. Your belated response is typical of your previous attitude to the many cases that I have helped and I consider that this case to me is the most satisfying of the many thousands that I have helped on the Homeopathic Forums and at home here in Colombo.

Here is your post which you made on another thread. I presume you did so as you wished to ensure that members of the ABC would not read it as they would otherwise have done if you posted it here on Robert’s thread:

“That patient was not cured of his stroke symptoms. Why would you be offering that case as proof of cure? In fact he needed treatment from other practitioners on this site for a number of other problems.

After the treatment with Joepathy, he still suffered from a Perianal cyst, erectile dysfunction, high blood pressure, difficulty walking without a cane, twitching in the arms, weakness of the legs and right shoulder.

The patient did acknowledge he was helped by Joe’s treatment. However he clearly was not cured.”

You state that the patient was NOT cured of his stroke symptoms. This is typical of your hatred of my Joepathy which anyone who is not obsessively jealous of this Miraculous Cure of a condition that had prostrated Robert since 2002 up to a few months ago, would have applauded. In your case I have often prescribed Lyco to help to clear your brain which seems so filled with Hatred of the singular success that has attended my CURES that you refuse to see the wood for the trees. I do hope that at this late stage you will take my advice.

It is true that Robert has presented other problems which you mentioned but they do not have any connection with his main problem which had rendered him to be a Paraplegic since 2002. It is when anyone deliberately stoops to the levels that you have so far descended down to in your criticism of my Joepathy that even I lose my even keel and am compelled to waste my time to berate you.

Please re-read Robert’s latest report of 11/11/11 where he states categorically that he was CURED of the aftereffects of his STROKE.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/304209/1

Re: Treating Gynecomastia with JoepathyFrom brijobob on 2011-11-11

Hi Joe,

I read your email and I have to thank you and joepathy “TREMENDOUSLY”.

I live in the Pacific Northwest and thanks to your treatment and advice I have been able to resume my career as a Computer consultant.

I am currently working four days a week in St. Louis MO. and returning home on Thursday and flying back on Sunday for my 4 day stint all at company expense with a salary of $125,000.00 per year.

None of this would be possible without your treatment and guidance. I have continued to use Arnica 30c to control my blood pressure which I maintain at 125/70 and I use Arnicated oil to relax my muscles after workouts.
Currently my workouts are 2 1/2 to 3 hours in duration and very intense.

None of this would have been possible without your help.

My gynecomastia has been completely eradicated with the help of Nat Phos 6c to help burn the fat and turn what was a B cup bra size breast into a chiseled chest on a 55 year old man.

With your therapy I was able to train intensely and bring my waist down from 42 inches to 34 inches.

I am proud to announce that I am walking normally again and looking forward to running soon.

You are truly a miracle worker and have my complete confidence.

Re: Joepathy for gynecomastiaFrom Joe De Livera on 2011-11-15
I am copying David’s response to my last post which he has again chosen to hide in another thread which is totally irrelevant to the cure of Robert’s Stroke in the hope that only I will read it.

I believe that he does not have the courage to post it in the obvious position here on this thread as it deals with Robert’s case of CURE after he first got 3 Strokes in 2002.

Re: desperately seeking sleep for reflux baby 13months    From brisbanehomoeopath [Log on to view profile]    on 2011-11-14
There is a simple way to tell if this patient is cured.

Have him stop his daily doses of Arnica.

If the symptoms remain cleared from him, then we have cure. If the symptoms return, then the patient is not cured.

Cure, as defined by homoeopathy, does not need to be maintained by constant applications of a medicine. It is maintained by the healthy vital force, which is in turn made healthy by just a few doses of the simillimum.

Cure is stable, long-lasting and affects the patient on all levels. Homoeopathy sets its yardstick at a high level because it is capable of doing such things.

When homoeopaths present cases for peer review, in order to be called ‘cured’, they also need to show such stable improvement (no tendency to relapse, ongoing maintanence of good health, no new diseases arising except in purely acute or external forms) for at least 12 months and preferably for 24 months.

A case cannot be ‘part-cured’. It is cured (all symptoms are gone) or it is uncured (symptoms remain). During the process of cure you will continue to see symptoms showing, and during this stage you cannot call the case cured even if Direction of Cure is good and suggests cure will happen. Many times patients will get seemingly a long way up this path, only to begin relapsing or displaying new more serious symptoms.

Cure also needs to have definitely come from the remedy. If patients engage in a variety of healing modalities, stop or start other kinds of medication, begin activities known to ameliorate the condition, then this clouds the issue sometimes beyond clarity. In such cases declarations of cure by the medicine would need to be assessed very cautiously.

This is exactly the measure I apply to my own cases before I declare them cured.

I have been asked to publish some of my cured cases in Frans Vermeulen’s new book – the requirements are stringent. I must show 18 months of the patient being improved, across all levels, with no sign of the old pathology or new pathology. No original symptoms can remain in the case.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:54:33 GMT]

Re: Joepathy for gynecomastiaFrom Joe De Livera on 2011-11-15
David has stated:

“There is a simple way to tell if this patient is cured.

Have him stop his daily doses of Arnica.

If the symptoms remain cleared from him, then we have cure. If the symptoms return, then the patient is not cured. ”

I would not dare to request Robert to STOP the Arnica/Nat Phos therapy that he continues to take today as prescribed some years ago. It has not caused him any harm and I do not anticipate that it can possibly cause him any in the future too.

I would consider that it is not in his interest to stop these 2 remedies he is taking today as it is not impossible that his metabolism can again commence the production of the debris in his blood which are now being filtered by my Joepathic therapy.

I am not interested in analyzing the fine details of the word CURE as I have had sufficient evidence direct from Robert that he was CURED by my Joepathy and is back to his normal lifestyle. I must admit however that his insistence of 3 hours of intense training is a matter for concern especially now that he is considering to add Running to his program.

All I wish to ensure is that he continues in his life without any future complications and that he too will live to reach my advanced age of 83 years in about 30 years from now.

Re: Joepathy for gynecomastiaFrom Joe De Livera on 2011-11-15
I am copying a post by Reva V in reply to David which is part of this thread;

Re: desperately seeking sleep for reflux baby 13months
From Reva V    on 2011-11-15
Brisbane,
Please show your “cure” (patient) as defined by you. It is not a polisehd publication, but the thread in this forum could be a real reference. You made 6500 post. I would expect alteast 1% of them should have benefited by your definition of “cure”. I will certainly contact them and get thier current health.

For people to live with Arnica, they have very good life after this, including my patients. Yes, you can stop Arnica, put them away from the EMF around us, remove flouride and Chlorine in the water (pre-Hahnemann time), eliminate the toxic chemicals from the every day food intake, give them no pollusion air…. and they will enjoy the cures of Hahnemann after stopping Arnica.

Again, please show your “cures”

Reva V

Re: Joepathy for gynecomastiaFrom Joe De Livera on 2011-11-16
Hi Robert

Thank you for your response to my post which you may not have done if I had not moved it from the thread dealing with the 13 month old baby where David Kempson who entitled himself as the “brisbane homeopath” had chosen to hide his feeble attempt to downgrade my Joepathy which CURED the aftermath of your stroke which had left you a paraplegic for about 6 years.

You have confirmed that in the past 2 years you have returned back to normal life without any impediment and that you are indulging in a 3 hours stint of an intense workout which I hope is not on a daily basis. You stated that you are also considering going a step further by running.

Your reports have given me the greatest satisfaction I have had in the 40+ years that I have been exposed to Homeopathy to know that you are back in harness and that I was in some way connected to your CURE which occurred after I read your post on this Forum and took your case. At that time, I had already helped 2 senior citizens who are now no more, to get back on their feet after some years of living as virtual vegetables as they had both lost movement in their extremities and were consigned to a living death by their children, for some time. I had used Arnica 1M to reawaken their brain and I was able to do so within a couple of weeks into my Joepathy. I mention this term deliberately as I want if known to you and David you will undoubtedly read this post that he would never have used Arnica 1M to treat patients with this condition simply because Hahnemann and his erstwhile followers did not record any CURES of this condition with Arnica 1M in their written texts which both David and I have studied. David refuses to come down to earth and insists that unless we follow the Diktat of the pioneers of Homeopathy to “treat the totality of the symptoms presented by the patient with a single remedy” the poor patient is damned to an existence that is not a cure but is equivalent to a time bomb due to implode in a short time into a far worse state than what he suffered from originally. According to the classical sect the patient enjoyed his  respite from his original state for only a temporary period of time as he would suffer a fate far worse than what you suffered from for 6 long years of Paraplegia. Be warned !

You are now 2 years into your new life and although I am indeed fearful of the possible results of the extreme stress that you are subjecting your body to, the fact that your mind impels you to do so is proof that “All systems are GO” .

You are living proof of the efficacy of my Joepathy.

I am also delighted to learn from your postscript that you have been instrumental in saving the leg of a chronic Diabetic from amputation.

As you are aware, I am in my 83rd year and I am indeed gratified that I have been chosen by my Creator to continue the process of CURE that I have worked out in my own manner which differs from the tenets of classical Homeopathy which David practices which unfortunately do not seem to give the same positive evidence of CURE that my Joepathy does.

I have just noticed that David has posted his long awaited response to you a short while ago, where he states that he has used Arnica himself to help his ‘clients’ but in his own classical manner and not in the manner that Joepathy is used to directly treat the ailment presented by the patient in what has been termed the “This for That” manner.

I have no qualms about the criticism I receive from David today and other classical homeopaths on the ABC and other forums who have criticized me in the past.

I do resent however the disparaging references that David makes to my Joepathy which I use today instead of the standard ‘classical’ homeopathy as I have found, as you too have found, that Joepathy CURES while classical homeopathy rarely if ever, does.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/298837/

Chalazions usually form almost immediately after Styes on the Eyelids. This is due to the lack of blood flow to the hair follicles in the Eye lashes where bacteria that descend on the eyes and are cleared away by the eyelids are not washed away by the blood flow which in a very few individuals is low,  and results in frequent Styes which do not ‘pop’ with the discharge of the pus and soon harden to a Chalazion which has to be scooped out surgically. The hardened mass cannot be treated by any homeopathic remedy and the only solution is to have them scooped out surgically by a competent Opthalmic surgeon.

Arnica will ensure that the formation of Styes is prevented in the future but it will have to be taken on a regular daily basis for some time into the future if the patient like the 15 year old child in this case below is to be free of Styes in the future.

chalazion

From ridhimakushal on 2011-10-051 replies9 views

i am 15 yrs old and i have got a chalazion about 6-8months ago ihave gone through surgery for 2 times and its still there i have done hot compresses i have also taken homeopathy treatment. and doctore are saying that you need one more surgery and i dont want to go through surgery please help me how can i cure it???
i need your help please please help me. Report post to moderator Re: chalazionFrom Joe De Livera on 2011-10-06Arnica 30c in the Wet dose will ensure that your Chalazions do not recur in the future but unfortunately the one you have today, which you state has been subjected to 2 surgeries, cannot be helped by this remedy. The surgery is not too invasive and will have to be done to finally fix the problem. You must also know that your existing Chalazion is a storehouse for bacteria and there is every chance that more infection can follow from the same bacteria in your lesion which will spread to other follicles of the eye lashes.

The reason is due to the fact that the flow of blood in your eyelids seems to be very low in your case and you would have observed that you suffer from frequent Styes forming in the past due to the invasion of bacteria into the hair follicles of your eye lashes which should normally be dealt with without the formation of yet another sty.

Arnica will increase the blood supply into the eyelids and thereby prevent the formation of yet another Sty which ends up as a Chalazion but you will have to take it for the rest of your life in the manner described below.

You will take a dose which is just a teaspoonful, twice daily for a month and then reduce it to just once nightly to ensure that your Styes will not recur in the future. It is perfectly safe to be taken on a long time basis in the Wet dose and you may like to know that I have taken it myself nightly for the last 16 years as a general ‘tonic’ to the consternation of my classical homeopathic colleagues. I am 82 years old and have proved that Arnica is an amazing remedy which has helped me and many others to maintain my state of health in a manner that no other remedy can possibly equate.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

Do not have your surgery done for at least 10 days after you start on the therapy prescribed above to enable the Arnica to help with clearing up the debris in the hair follicles of your eye lashes.

Report progress from time to time on this Forum.

 

Re: chalazion	From ridhimakushal	on 2011-10-06
but how can i get rid of the present chalazion??
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Re: chalazion	From Joe De Livera	on 2011-10-06
You will have to get it scooped out by the same Opthalmic surgeon who attended to you in the past. There is unfortunately no alternative to surgery. The Arnica therapy will guarantee that you do not ever get any more Styes which harden into Chalazions in the future.

I am copying a thread from the ABC where I have traced the origin of the “Wet dose” which I have promoted since 2005 which is unfortunately not used by the majority of Homeopaths throughout the world as they are not aware of its benefits and are not taught about this method of treatment of their patients in their Colleges.

The reader will be interested to learn about the efficacy of the Wet dose and its origins in this article below copied from

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/298290/

Wet dose in demineralized water

From imstree [Log on to view profile]    on 2011-10-03
4 replies    55 views
Hello,

I have taken my wet dose in spring water….but it was unavailable today so I decided to dilute my granules in demineralized treated water (by reverse osmosis-ozonized).Will my dose still be effective??

Thoughts, and many thanks!

Re: wet dose in demineralized water    From brisbanehomoeopath[Log on to view profile]    on 2011-10-03
It won’t make any difference at all. You can use tap water, spring water, rain water – as long as it is water it will work.

Re: wet dose in demineralized water
From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile]    on 2011-10-03

Glad to note that David Kempson is commenting on the Wet dose which I first listed on the ABC forum in 2005 shortly after I coined the term and gave my reasons for doing so.

What he fails to understand is that the presence of Chlorine in Tap Water will antidote the Homeopathic remedy.

Simple boiling of the water will fix this problem as the Chlorine is liberated by boiling.

It is my hope that David will also follow my lead and give his remedies in the Wet dose precisely as I have prescribed it below:

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

Re: wet dose in demineralized water    From brisbanehomoeopath[Log on to view profile]    on 2011-10-03
The proper name of the ‘wet dose’ is actually the Split Dose, a method outlined in our Organon of Medicine by Dr. Samuel Hahnemann the inventor of homoeopathy. ‘Wet dose’ is actually a poor term for it as it fails to explain what the purpose of the method is (to divide the dose into smaller amounts to reduce aggravation, thus it is ‘split’).

Chlorine in water does not antidote remedies. I have used tap water many times with no diminishing of the power of the medicines at all, as have many patients without asking me about the quality of water to be used. Very few things antidote remedies.

In fact antidoting can only take place if something is given that matches the symptoms of the remedy, in effect curing it through the law of similars.

Re: wet dose in demineralized water
From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile]    on 2011-10-03

I disagree with David on both the points he has made in his response above.

It was Luc who introduced me to the “Watery dose” which he used at that time by inserting either the remedy or the remedy in the Liquid Dilution in Alcohol into water. He too called it the “Split dose” and upon further investigation jointly by him and me from my edition of the Organon it stated that the Split dose was made by first dissolving the remedy in a bottle of water to which 20% alcohol was added as the ‘preservative’. A teaspoonful is taken from the ‘preserved’ remedy and inserted into a cup of water and after it is mixed into it, the patient is given a teaspoonful as the dose and the rest of the medicated water is discarded.

I questioned Luc about the reason for this puzzling instruction from the Master and he could not give me an answer as to the reason why the remedy is made into the Watery dose in a 20% solution of Alcohol, from which a teaspoonful is taken and further mixed or diluted in a cup of water from which a teaspoonful is the dose given to the patient. The addition of 20% of neat alcohol into the remedy bottle would make the mixture the equivalent of a stiff drink of alcohol and this admixture too Luc could not figure out. We conjectured that Hahnemann may have himself been inebriated when he included this Aphorism into the Organon !

The point that I was making at that time was that I had discovered that a patient who presented Asthma was not responding to Nat Sulph 6c in the Split dose but he did respond to the Wet dose which is made by inserting 3 drops of the remedy into a bottle of spring water from which a teaspoonful is sipped and we arrived at the term “Wet dose” which I coined with Luc agreeing on this term which I notice he uses himself to describe a remedy made into a bottle of spring water.

http://www.minimum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=710&sid=4adfda…

I coined the term “Wet dose” to differentiate it from the Dry dose which usually comprises lactose pellets. This term Wet dose has stuck in the Homeopathic World like my “Joepathy” and a quick search on Google for Wet dose will list over 25000 hits. For the record “Joepathy” lists over 2000 hits.

I would challenge David to disprove that I was the author of the term “Wet dose”.

I have used the term Wet dose in all my posts and notes on making the Wet dose which I use exclusively as I have found that it works far more effectively than the dry pellets.

I would like to copy my post on the ABC below as further evidence of its history:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/49208/

Preparing the Liquid and Split Dose
From Joe De Livera     on 2006-01-21

I was converted to the Liquid Dose which is also referred to as the Wet or Water dose by Dr Luc de Schepper who was here in Sri Lanka last April to help the survivors of the Tsunami. He referred me to Hahnemann’s Sixth edition where he has recorded this method of using a remedy.

Up to that time I had, in common with other homeopaths throughout the world used the dry globules which are activated by using a few drops of the liquid remedy that you get from the Homeopathic Pharmacies, usually in 10ml plastic bottles with dropper caps.

The liquid dose is made by getting a 500ml bottle of Spring water from a supermarket and it is recommended that the fine type is read to check if the water is from deep bore wells to ensure purity. The water must be free of chlorine.

2 drops of the liquid remedy or 3 globules which are already activated are then inserted into the bottle from which about 50ml has been decanted to provide some air space on top just under the lid.

The bottle is then subjected to violent agitation either by twirling in the hand clockwise and anti c, or the bottle can be banged on the open palm or a cushion to ensure the the water produces bubbles like when opening a bottle of soda. This bubbling is succussion which is the secret of HOmeopathy and raises the potency of the water which is now the liquid remedy every so slightly thereby making the remedy to help cure the ailment better that with the dry dose.

The split dose is used when the trace of the remedy should be very subtle and just sufficient to prod the body to accept it and help cure the ailment like Asthma. The method of using the split dose is to succuss the bottle and take a teaspoonful of the remedy from the bottle and put it into half cup of water from another bottle which is reserved for this purpose. The water is stirred gently and a teaspoonful from the cup is sipped.

I was at first very skeptical about the effect of any remedy which I had been dispensing to patients in the dry dose which was usually 2 gobules taken twice or thrice daily, being powerful enough to help cure anyone when used in the liquid dose and even less in the split dose.

However I must record for the benefit of anyone who reads this post that I have discovered that the Liquid Dose is far more potent than the dry globules to cure any ailment. It is the succussion that makes the liquid remedy to help cure the ailment faster.

I must admit that succussion is mind boggling in its concept but the fact is that it works and the patient is cured.

This is the Miracle of Homeopathy.

As for David’s reference to Chlorine NOT affecting the Homeopathic remedy I have to state here for the purpose of record that I have personally found that tap water when used without boiling to make any Wet dose antidotes the remedy as soon as the 3 drops are mixed into the chlorinated water.

I have had a positive response from a patient who suffered from Psoriasis for a lifetime and has seen his condition easing in a few weeks on my therapy which is noted below:

Change your diet to VEGAN.

Use Arnica 6c in the Wet dose thrice daily and apply it directly on the lesions

Order the remedy in the Liquid Dilution in Alcohol in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake it hard to produce bubbles. This is homeopathic succussion and must be done every time before a capful of the bottle which is the dose is taken as directed.

Take a capful of the remedy water twice daily and also apply the water on your lesions as often as possible to keep them damp.

Take Nat Phos 6x dose 3 tablets after every meal to ensure that the food is passed quickly from the stomach into the colon. This prevents the stagnation of food in the gut which in turn enables the lesions to heal.

Drink at least 3 liters of water daily.

No Coffee, processed meats like sausages, ham and bacon (Saltpeter) and all canned and bottled beverages including Coke. No alcohol.

It is understood that you will not take any other drug while using the Arnica therapy.

A Patient records loss of weight in 3 weeks with Nat Phos 6x

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/292964

Dr Joe De Liveria, please help

From afridig
2011-09-066
respected Mr Joe,
Iam 40, mother of 3 kids and need your help regarding hair loss, spider veins on legs and obesity,
I’ve read about your wonderful research and therapies.I’ve already purchased Natrum Phos 6x, arnica 30c. Could you please tell me if i Can take these remedies simultaneously. please advise for these three problems.

Thanks in advance

Re: Dr Joe De Liveria, please help
From Joe De Livera on 2011-09-06
Reading a post like yours gives me more satisfaction than prescribing my  default remedies which I have on record on my Hard Drive, to patients who visit this and other Forums to ask for advice to overcome their problems. This proves that my efforts to help suffering humanity with my “Joepathy” have not been in vain, at my advanced age of 82 years.

Continue the therapy which I have spelt out to many patients on this Forum on the basis of priorities which from a first reading of your problems can be:
1    Obesity
2    Hair Loss
3    Spider Veins

It is very likely that with the reduction of your weight, your other problem will all stabilize. When they do, you are advised to continue taking Arnica 30c in the Wet dose for the rest of your life.

Feel free to check with me if you would like to have any matter clarified.
Re: Dr Joe De Liveria, please help
From afridig on 2011-09-06
Thanks a lot Sir for responding to my mail, I,ve already made the wet dose of arnica and was just waiting for your reply. I have faith in your therapy as you are so sincerely helping us all. So just to confirm that i can start taking both arnica wet dose and natrum phos 6x globules.

Thanks and regards

Re: Dr Joe De Liveria, please help
From Joe De Livera on 2011-09-06

You will take 2 tablets Nat Phos 6x thrice daily immediately after meals and watch for your weight to reduce by 1kg per week.

Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily will reinforce the effect of Nat Phos.

Re: Dr Joe De Liveria, please help
From afridig on 2011-09-06
Thanks and God Bless You Sir. I’ve started the therapy as advised and will report after 2 weeks.
Re: Dr Joe De Liveria, please help
From afridig on 2011-09-27
Respected Dr Joe, its my third week taking Natrum phos 6x and arnica wet dose and its incredible. I’ve lost more than 1 kg i,e 1200gms and the amazing part is that i reduced my exercise to half and was eating more( i guess there there is increased appetite with these remedies). I’ve also noticed less breaking of hair but unfortunately there is no effect on legs spider veins.
I’ve also a small eczema on left forearm which is increasing in size, Sir could you please recommend some remedy for spider veins and my eczema.
Once again thanks for sharing your wonderful therapies.

Re: Dr Joe De Liveria, please help
From Joe De Livera on 2011-09-27

Glad to note that my “Joepathy” has helped yet another patient in some way to alleviate their ailments.

Thank you for recording the loss of 1.2kg of your body weight in just over 2 weeks. You will observe that if you exercise at your usual levels and also curb the desire to eat more, your weight loss will be at least 1kg per week.

The Eczema will soon disappear with the Arnica and you can hasten its cure by applying the Arnica from the bottle on a gauze directly on the lesion.

The Spider veins should also be helped by the Arnica but I shall prescribe some other remedy later if they are still a problem a few weeks into the future.

It is my hope that my Australian detractor will take note of this thread which is far removed from his own interpretation of the diktat of classical homeopathy which to me seems to be so archaic and irrelevant today that I believe that even Hahnemann may have considered the possibility of using my direct “this for that” therapy aka “Joepathy” if he was still among the living.

http://www.dailynews.lk/2011/09/26/fea03.asp

Daily News Sri Lanka
September 26 2011

The cure for dengue

The Times of India gave much publicity recently to two villages where people were rushing to homeopathic clinics to obtain the drug Eupatorium Perfoliatum 200 to fight the dengue epidemic. Here in Sri Lanka, despite the government recently introducing the BTI Bacteria imported from Cuba and spraying it on stagnant pools at considerable cost, the results have been an abject failure and dengue continues to infect the population with over 20,000 cases recorded this year with over 200 fatalities.

A meeting was recently held at the CSR (Centre for Society and Religion) Colombo to commemorate the death anniversary of the late Professor of Pharmacology Dr Balasubramanium. Among the distinguished guests present were some medical doctors. Prof. Carlo Fonseka addressed the audience after which 82 year old Joe de Livera, who still functions as the CEO of a very old family owned business organization in Pettah, also spoke.

As a guest speaker, he delivered a lecture on the efficacy of Eupatorium Perfoliatum 200 which he has successfully prescribed to many patients as the cure for dengue.

“My goal is to spread the news of this amazing Homeopathic remedy that will cure dengue, as widely as is possible, as it has proved to cure a patient in under six hours and saved many lives. What is more important is that it can help to ensure that dengue is eradicated from Sri Lanka and this can only be achieved if the government and the doctors will permit the use of this remedy in hospitals. All that is needed is that the doctors give the patient a teaspoonful of the remedy which is made by medicating bottles of standard drinking water sold in supermarkets, every few hours as prescribed”.

Prejudice

Allopathic Medicine throughout the past century has traditionally been prejudiced against Homeopathy since it has no clinical proof, but the fact remains that it works in some mysterious manner to cure disease, especially dengue.

He also believes that a few other diseases that are often helped and cured by Homeopathy, like Eczema, Asthma, Arthritis, GERD (commonly known as Gastritis), to name only a few, cannot be equalled by drugs. It is this prejudice on the part of the medical profession that he is          trying to overcome as he is absolutely convinced that Eupatorium Perfoliatum 200c which has been used for over a century is the ultimate remedy to treat viral diseases spread by mosquitoes. He feels very strongly that the current attitude of doctors to virtually refuse to use the one remedy that will cure dengue can be construed as a violation of the Oath of Hippocrates that they all solemnly took when they first registered as doctors.

Joe de Livera’s plea, especially to the doctors present, was that they use the remedy Eupatorium Perfoliatum in the 200c potency which he prepared to activate in their presence in sealed bottles of spring water to prove that there was nothing else – drug or other substance – used to activate the bottles of spring water. Unfortunately there were no takers!

It is no exaggeration that dengue has reached epidemic levels in Sri Lanka and it is in the hands of the government and the medical profession to give Homeopathy a chance to help cure this epidemic of dengue.

Arnica Montana

Turning briefly to Arnica Montana, he came out with many facts about its use for various diseases which he has collated in his website. He has found the wet dose (a bottle of water activated with just three drops of the Homeopathic remedy) to be far more effective in comparison to the standard dry pellets used by Homeopaths.

“I am a living example of the efficacy of this remedy as I have taken a teaspoonful nightly since 1996 which is almost 16 years ago. I do not use any drugs whatever on a daily basis as many of my age do, except on a SOS basis like after surgery, and I have not required any drugs to treat standard ailments like coughs and colds which are only too common and which I have noticed I do not catch as often as I did before my involvement in Homeopathy. My BP is under 120/80, Pulse around 70 BPM. Cholesterol and Triglycerides are at normal levels.

I believe I have proved that Homeopathy is by far more effective than the drugs that many use on a daily basis”.

“At 82 years of age I do not have any ailment or pain in my body. I use Homeopathic remedies exclusively to treat myself and those have enabled me to maintain my present state of health which is the envy of many who are half my age. Even today I drive myself daily to office to execute my duties as the CEO of my organization, as I have done for the last 60 years”.

After the proceedings many rushed to obtain Arnica 30 which he distributed in bottles of water free of charge. A few wanted the dengue remedy, but unfortunately none of the doctors requested it.

Joe de Livera quipped: “The problem they have is that they depend on disease for their livelihood while in my case I am trying my level best to not only cure, but to also eradicate this dreaded disease even before it strikes anyone. It is the loss of their revenue that the doctors are concerned with, as if by using this remedy, a patient can be cured of his dengue, they stand to lose a considerable slice of their revenue. This remedy when used as a Prophylactic in small weekly doses has proved its efficacy in preventing Dengue and it is unfortunate that the doctors are not agreeable to using it even on a test basis to verify if my findings are true”.

He concluded his speech by referring the audience to his website: www.joedelivera.com in which he has collated a wealth of his experience in the treatment of disease with ‘Joepathy’.